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Nibodhika, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

It was known beforehand and was fixed already by the time he released his video, he just happened to luck out and encounter it during the short spam it existed.

I disagree that he approached it as a complete idiot, he approached it as someone who knows what they’re doing, when he definitely doesn’t, and that was the issue. Anyone without technical know-how would have panicked at the system asking him to type “I know what I’m doing”, and anyone with enough technical know-how would have paused at that and read the message carefully and moped the fuck out. He had enough knowledge to think he knew what he was doing, but not enough to actually do, and the boldness to think he knew better.

That being said, I agree that there’s plenty of other stuff to bash him for, and that was not a great example, lots of people would have found themselves in that same situation, and I don’t think it’s unfair to say the fuck up there was not entirely on his part.

Nibodhika, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

Yup, like I said, it depends on how prices will fluctuate, my guess is what the price would be if it was being sold now, if RAM increases they would have to compensate for it.

Nibodhika, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

Yup, I love DIY, had tons of fun building my wife’s mini-itx gaming rig, my NAS and even my desktop (although it was the boring one of the three since it’s just standard). I love poking on my system, trying out stuff, etc. But I bought a Deck and my only mod was getting EmuDeck in it, it just works for what I want it to, and that’s worth a lot to me, it allows me to pour my time on stuff I want to be building and just game on my gaming boxes.

Nibodhika, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

Let’s talk wages.

Absolutely agreed, if every company had wages at the level Valve does it would be very good.

Nibodhika, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

Yeah, but to be fair that was a shitty thing the system did, anyone with experience would know not to do it, but honestly it should have never happened. On the other hand, Linus is a bit daft and lots of stuff blows over his head monumentally, in the same video where he said he would be building a Steam Machine he also couldn’t seem to grasp that this is just a computer and people would see it as a prevuilt. In short I don’t think he will acknowledge lots of the killer features in the Steam Machine just so he can claim his thing does the same. But at least it will be an interesting watch.

Nibodhika, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

Facts people forget:

  • Assembling your own Steam Machine with similar parts will cost around 800
  • Even if you assembled it yourself you would be missing features, such as cec, wake by controller, sleep mid game, etc. LTT will try to build one, it will be interesting to see what they come up with, but I’m 90% it won’t have feature parity.
  • There’s lots of engineering gone into this machine, they’re way more compact, less power hungry and more quiet than anything you can build yourself.
  • Buying the same build as a prebuilt brings a premium and costs around 1000
  • Valve purchases stuff in scale so they can diminish their margin and could potentially sell it cheaper than prebuilts, and possibly cheaper than building it yourself.
  • Consoles are sold at a loss, and they recover it with games because the platform is closed.
  • The Steam Machine is not closed, they can’t be sure they’re getting game purchases, because people might be buying this to be their work computer. So they have to price it as a PC, with margin on hardware, not promise of future returns.
  • Price might fluctuate between now and announcement, RAM prices are going crazy nowadays.

With all of that being said, it seems to me it’s very likely it will be around 800 but less than 1000. For people saying you can build one for that price yourself, sure, go ahead, you’ll have a huge, power hungry loud box, without the same features and you would have saved only a small fraction of the value by having to assemble everything yourself.

Nibodhika, do games w Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]

Still, my point was about the price guess that the other guy made. Valve was very clear that it would be priced as a PC and not a console, consoles are around the 500 mark, so it would be at least 700 otherwise they would have mentioned aggressive pricing or something.

Nibodhika, do games w Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]

I think that was the right approach for the first controller. It is one of the worst controllers for traditional controller games, but it’s the best by a long shot for mouse driven games. So when you plug it somewhere that doesn’t have the correct drivers it’s more likely that you want to use it as a mouse than as a controller. There’s an open source driver for Linux (or at least there used to be), but I don’t think it ever got ported to Android since I guess it would require a rooted phone.

Nibodhika, do games w Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]

I think you’re way off, they said that they will price the GabeBox like a PC and not a console, that probably means the price for it will be around 1k since that’s what a similar PC would cost, here’s an example of the price of a prebuilt PC with a 7600 which is the GPU that they mentioned as being the closest to the one they use periphio.com/…/firestorm-7600-prebuilt-amd-gaming…

Also the Frame was mentioned as being priced less but close to the Index, and the Index was also 1k with the base stations, so I think the Frame will likely be very close to that as well.

The controller I would guess around $70, but there’s likely to be one together with the Machine, so all in all I think we’re looking closer to 2k. But I would be very happy to be wrong.

Nibodhika, do games w Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]

That was my thought too, as far as I understand ARM is superior to x86 in many aspects, but because of compatibility it never took over the desktop market, this could be the beginning of an amazing transformation.

Nibodhika, do games w Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]

I mean, the VR is an ARM chip that can run APKs, so if someone can find a way to plug a SIM card there that’s it.

Nibodhika, do games w Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]

Yup, that’s me too, love VR, but refused to get a headset before because I would need a Windows machine. I bought a Quest 1, still use it sometimes, but I knew it was never going to be a long term for me, Meta is not a company I trust enough, and they did exactly what I expected them to do.

Nibodhika, do games w Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]

They do, I’m 99% sure I heard it mentioned by someone (I think it was Linus from LTT)

Nibodhika, do games w 'I think we're in the fight of our lives': Fired Rockstar employees and IWGB are confident the GTA 6 developer will be held accountable for its alleged union busting

That’s an interesting approach, but eventually you’ll run out of shares to allow employees to buy, and you’ll have to dilute the ones you’ve already sold. You need to think that AAA studios have hundreds of people working there, and certain games have thousands of people working on related stuff that’s not directly the game but contributes, like engine, servers, social, etc.

Nibodhika, do games w 'I think we're in the fight of our lives': Fired Rockstar employees and IWGB are confident the GTA 6 developer will be held accountable for its alleged union busting

Unfortunately for larger games individual devs don’t have that much control nor can have a mensurable impact. For example, I wrote a few lines of code for a large game, those lines will be executed every single time the game runs, but if they weren’t there no user would notice. I was told to write those lines, and it’s not something I personally wanted to add to the game, there was an issue, I was sent to fix it, I did. This is true for the vast majority of the game code, most devs are pointed to issues to fix or features to implement, they have some wiggle room in the how to do stuff, but the what to do has been approved by the boss of the manager of your manager’s manager, and unless there’s a good reason it won’t change.

Think about it this way, have you ever watched the credits from a AAA game? The vast majority (as in there are likely only a couple of persons who didn’t) of the people in that list contributed something to the game, either directly or indirectly, it’s hard to measure how much each contributed, a small but critical fix might be more important than a large but unused feature, how do you measure between the two?. Not to mention past employees who did stuff for a previous game that got re-used.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a nice idea, one that I would personally benefit from, but I think it’s just not feasible for large games. In short it’s impossible to be fair doing that, and people would get hurt because John from accounting got the same share that he did. And if you do it in any other way that’s not everyone gets the same share, you’re essentially playing favorites with the people whose job is to do the stuff you’ve ranked higher, even though the other person’s job is just as important.

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