Dexx1s

@Dexx1s@lemmy.world

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Dexx1s,

Well, they get the snuff out competition and get to hold on to IPs. The thing is though: People are saying that there are good indie games, but I won’t ever hear shit about said games unless I specifically go looking for them, which will almost never happen nowadays.

Even when I allow ads, game ads are pretty rare. AAA games were almost impossible to miss because there’s always enough buzz, positive or negative, for the big ones.

Dexx1s,

Goddamn, it really did hit Forbes. Now I’m really interested in how Respawn will handle this one.

Dexx1s,

I read here recently that the rich people who pay attention to Forbes for investment information avoid all Forbes contributor content and focus only official article from Forbes staff.

I understand you, but they’re not the ones who matter here tbh; it’s other laymen. I don’t use Forbes, I just know what Forbes is. Looking at that page, I’d have no idea what you’re talking about. The url is Forbes, the author’s name is there, and is labelled as a senior contributor. For most of us: “we hit Forbes boys!”

Dexx1s,

They definitely did. This will easily be the top Apex news for at least a week.

Dexx1s,

This “debate” has been going on for ages now. They don’t actually mind exclusivity. They’re just mad it’s not on the launcher they use. None of them care when it’s exclusively on Steam.

Dexx1s,

So then…you’re just admitting that you’re fine with exclusivity once Steam is where it’s exclusive to.

Nobody’s forcing any developers to be on any platform, and let’s not pretend you actually care about a platform offering a deal to devs for exclusivity. Those same devs are free to say no. But in that same line, Steam gets exclusive games for free. You’re fine with Valve exclusivity that doesn’t pay the devs but hate anyone else getting exclusivity although it does pay them? Interesting.

Dexx1s,

I put nothing in your mouth. Actually, quote the words I’m putting in your mouth and explain how. I merely showed the reality of words you typed. If Palworld was available exclusively on Steam would you care? If any other game you care about and wanted to play was exclusively on Steam, would there be a post or comment complaining about it?

Offering financial incentives isn’t the forcing anyone. You’re fine with Steam getting exclusives, so this has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of exclusives. Devs aren’t forced to take any incentives if they don’t want it.

But now that you mentioned it:

Devs use steam because it’s where the people are.

This is an incentive. Steam doesn’t offer money because they have pretty much a monopoly. And you guys will only buy from Steam, reinforcing it. You know you all of these stores are essentially just where you buy it right? I don’t even use EGS to launch games. It’s not some “you only get to pick one” kinda bullshit.

Look at palworld: gamepass and steam and you know they got paid for gamepass.

Yeah, because Game Pass isn’t looking to take on Steam. Game pass is a subscription service.

Dexx1s,

'tis a shame you couldn’t say what words I’d put in your mouth.

No, because that would be the dev’s choice.

That “because” isn’t actually telling the reason. You’d be fine with it, because it’s on Steam. Any kind of exclusivity is also the devs choice, and you obviously have a problem when they choose to be exclusive to a platform you don’t use.

but Valve does nothing extra to encourage exclusivity.

Apart from having the most market share, that you yourself already admitted.

People have and still do complain when games aren’t on GoG.

I never asked about anybody else. I asked about you. Or should I take it you never complained when games aren’t also on GoG?

OK, we’re done. You don’t understand or acknowledge financial coercion so this is going nowhere. Byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye.

Oh, damn, imagine thinking that once there’s money on the table they must take it, and then at the same time, not understanding the value of a near monopoly. Steam is literally leveraging the large amount of people that will buy the game if it’s on Steam. I even acknowledged it. Me saying that they don’t have to take it is quite literally acknowledging it. But ok, byyyyyyyyyyyyyye.

Dexx1s,

This has nothing to do with Linux. Gamers in general, the cast majority being in Windows, hate EGS. It makes contracts for exclusivity, the launcher is apparently atrocious and there’s an almost inherent bias against any launcher/storefront that isn’t Steam. You’ll find those three reasons in just about any conversation about EGS.

And, to actually address your Linux theory, all I have to do is to open Heroic, sign in if I haven’t already, download the game and run it through Proton, in exactly the same way I do on Steam. Epic’s hate for Linux isn’t really that much of a problem.

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