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crowsby, 2 lata temu do piracy w Official Statement from Lemmy.world admin about community removal

I see we've unfortunately brought over the trend of defaulting to assuming the worst intentions from Reddit, with a side portion of baseless accusations. While I'm disappointed that the community was removed, I think it can be easily explained by:

• Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve
• The reality that, right or wrong, any significant legal action brought against them would be game over for the instance and personally devastating for the humans involved. Conde Nast they are not, and if Joe SIIA decides to put them in their crosshairs, the legal situation would be financially devastating.

It's reaaaaaally really easy to sit in the peanut gallery and talk shit about how they're cowardly acquiescing when it's not our neck in the noose.

That being said, I feel like recent acts of defederation are only serving to highlight that the way forward in the fediverse is going to be having accounts on multiple instances in order to get the full breadth of offerings. In my case:

• I initially signed up on lemmy.ml since that was, at the time the "main" instance.
• Oh hey, kbin looks cool. I'll sign up there and check it out.
• Oh hey, people are saying that the lemmy.ml admins are evil commies or some shit. Welp I better make an account on lemmy.world in case anything goes sideways.
• Oh hey, now I'm probably going to also need an account on dbzer0 as well, dope.

sab, 2 lata temu do piracy w Official Statement from Lemmy.world admin about community removal

It honestly makes a lot of sense to keep illegal content that's the source of frequent legal actions away from the largest general purpose communities. As you correctly point out it is extremely easy to join another instance where these discussions are allowed, and the larger instances have every reason to have a "better safe than sorry" approach to content moderation.

It seems to me the Threadiverse is too negative of the concept of defederation. It's a key concept of how the Fediverse works, and is supposed to work. The people on Lemmygrad is looking for a completely different experience from the folks over at Beehaw, so let them have it. Lemmy.world has become the largest instance, so naturally they need to have an approach to content moderation that is unlikely to land them in legal trouble. And even if they didn't, they'd be welcome to block discussions of piracy out of moral conviction or any other reason, just as their users are welcome to sign up somewhere else if they are looking for a different experience.

There was drama about defederation on Mastodon in the beginning as well, but I guess people coming from Twitter had an easier time intuitively understanding the appeal of it.

AltF4, 2 lata temu do piracy w Official Statement from Lemmy.world admin about community removal

To everyone ready with their pitchforks, here is a scenario: lemmy.world may receive a court order (subpoena?) mandating they disclose data on people actively accessing pirate communities. As it happened with Reddit, they may ask for logs and IP addresses of people commenting, posting or perhaps even up/down voting content.

Even though none of the content is being posted/hosted with this instance, admins may be asked to betray user trust - or to go battle claimants in court. It’s a lose-lose for them, so maybe let’s cut them some slack, eh?

gabe, 2 lata temu do piracy w Critical support for the Lemmy world peeps in their fight against pro-intellectual property nerds

yall, this dude tried signing up to my instance a few nights ago. yall wanna see why many communities have registration approvals? see below. warning for nsfw language

NSFW languagehttps://literature.cafe/pictrs/image/a0ac7e23-44b5-42ab-99f1-6ae071668cb7.webp

Melody, 2 lata temu do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don’t like for whatever silly reason they can’t reveal to the public.

Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.

Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.

If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.

lemmyvore, 2 lata temu do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they’re defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won’t defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.

There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I’m not aware of any that will do the latter. I don’t understand why, it can’t be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.

narp, 2 lata temu do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

I’m on a german instance (feddit.de) and it’s federated with db0.

I think it’s just lemmy.world bullshit.

Has anyone read their post about their downtime?

“We shouldn’t close registration or limit the amount of communities because we’re not even the biggest instance in the fediverse”

Like, what?! The argument was always that they are the biggest in Lemmy! It felt like they were trying to gaslight the users.

Same as the other arguments, like new users being weirded out if they can’t register to lemmy.world or apps using them as default. So them being down all the time doesn’t matter? Or that lemmy.ml was the biggest instance and closed down registration and new users registered to other instances without a problem?

I’m really weirded out how hard they try to be the “main” thing on Lemmy.

db0, 2 lata temu do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

To be honest, it’s not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.

I just wish this wasn’t done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.

OtakuAltair, 2 lata temu do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

At least they blocked a community and not the entire instance. This is how these things should be handled, imo

goddamnpipes, 2 lata temu do piracy w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?

I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.

Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.

RightHandOfIkaros, 2 lata temu do gaming w Anyone interested in a GachaGaming community?

I typically prefer to only engage in the specific communities of the gacha games I play. I don’t like or have interest in all gacha games, and the ones I do play are so niche they would just get lost in the void to all the ten million posts about Honkai Star Rail or that FATE gacha game.

I am sad there is no Super Mecha Champions community, but the game is pretty niche as it is, so its not all that surprising. While me posting about it could act as a sort of draw for potential new players, I am not an advertiser nor am I paid to do that. If someone asks, I will mention it, but other than that I typically just stick to the existing Discord.

That being said, if a community for anything doesn’t already exist on your chosen instance, or if one does exist but you don’t like its moderation or whatever, nothing is stopping you from creating one yourself.

db0, 2 lata temu do piracy w !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com has the most subscribers out of any community according to lemmyverse.net

That’s kinda strange, not gonna lie. I was expecting a lot more subs in the meme communities etc.

I do find it interesting that when lemmy instances are mentioned, lemmy.dbzer0.com is mentioned as an afterthought, if at all :D

TheRtRevKaiser, 2 lata temu do gaming w (SOLVED) Ok, so I just bought Baldurs Gate 3. Now how do I bypass the 'Create Larian Account' bit without creating an account?

You already had comments removed from this thread yesterday. Since you couldn’t take the hint to disengage and stop this bickering, I’m temp banning you from this community for 24 hours. No matter how irritated you are that OP didn’t pay attention to the prompt to skip login, this isn’t an acceptable way to behave on this instance.

chloyster, 2 lata temu do gaming w New Rule announcement: Meme Monday's

Personally, I think a gaming meme community is too niche for our instance at the moment. Especially when our general jokes and humor community doesn’t see much posting. I would think this type of content could be posted there any day of the week

beehaw.org/c/humor

thoro, 2 lata temu do gaming w Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

Capital wins again. If only the FTC didn’t sit on its ass for the last 40 years, maybe such market consolidation wouldn’t be allowed and normalized.

Also shout-out to this comm. The Beehaw community seems delighted. You can sometimes really tell which instances skew toward leftists vs liberals

Pixelologist, 2 lata temu do gaming w What are you playing this week?

I’m a big fighting game enjoyer , do you know where that kind of discussion happens here? I have some in other instances but would rather contribute to an existing community here if one exists