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GeekFTW, w 70 percent of gamers avoid certain games because of 'toxic communities', study finds
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Absolutely. I enjoyed playing a bit of Smite at one point in time (mostly that big open area map) and some Heroes of the Storm, but I'm not a big MOBA guy. Decided one day to give League of Legends a try, why the hell not ya know?

I have never been called a 'fucking fag' and been told to kill myself more times in a 5 minutes period of time in the entirety of my 40 years on this flying shitball of a planet. Not in public school, not on Xbox Live while playing Halo, not from my abusive family, never.

Uninstalled that shit 10 mins later and went back to TF2 where I get called that only once an hour.

Infiltrated_ad8271,
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That's why I liked hots, the capability to block chat from the start and for everyone.
It's not really a problem in non-competitive modes, as people usually just use on-map alerts.

GeekFTW,
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Disabling voice/text chat is usually my first go-to with almost any online game cause of shit like this lmao.

Computerchairgeneral, w Sony’s latest PS5 beta supports Dolby Atmos and up to 8TB of M.2 SSD storage

Glad to see Sony supporting bigger storage options, given how much space AAA games are taking up these days.

batterysoup, w Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out

Launching without an OLED screen would be a mistake. It's going backwards with what they achieved with the switch OLED model.

Wisely, w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

I seem to have a differing opinion here but I love long games if it is actually full of good content.

I don't play games with micro transactions and find a lot of open world games to be full of time wasters. If that's all it is then sure cut that out.

But with games costing $70 I would feel like I wasted my money for only a 10+ hour experience like some comments are wanting. That can be done in a single day. Assassin Creed games really aren't meant to be replayed either.

Games with lots of replayabilty are such good value and keep me entertained for hundreds or even thousands of hours. Games like Civilization, Persona 5, Zelda, Elder Scrolls, GTA, Metal Gear, old school Final Fantasy, Roller Coaster Tycoon, Xcom, Command and Conquer, Colonization, etc.

Maybe it's more a sign of modern games being full of stuff that isn't fun? Boring extremely limited NPC's, lots of wandering with nothing to do but collect some useless thing. In that case I agree with all the other comments but instead of wishing for a shorter game I would wish for a better game that is fun to play for long periods of time.

Zahille7,

I paid full price for Jedi Survivor, and minus a couple (somewhat big) bugs, I feel like I got my money’s worth after I finished the story. I think it took me around 60-ish hours to get to 99%

3rd,

I'm currently on my second playthrough of the original Fallen Order and while I got the game for free I'd say it's worth full 60$. It's a great intriduction to the souls-like games for someone new to the genre

peter, w Xbox Is Suspending Players Caught Using Emulators
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It was always surprising to me that they were allowing this and it seemed like a matter of time before they would come round to putting a stop to it. Ah well

3rd, w Sony’s latest PS5 beta supports Dolby Atmos and up to 8TB of M.2 SSD storage

That's some great news for PS5 users, as games are getting bigger the ability of upgrading the storage up to 8TB is awesome!

inclementimmigrant, w Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out

I mean nice but honestly I’m not all that excited about it right now without seeing some actual specs besides it’ll have a LCD screen an ‘larger’ internal storage.

Notwithstanding but the switch 2 will have significant competition the steam deck and its competitors along with the fact that Microsoft and Sony are releasing their first party games on PC, Nintendo’s first party exclusives just aren’t as big of a draw for me anymore.

woelkchen, w Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out
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StarServal, w Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out
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Here comes the endless deluge of me too posts trying to capitalize on the rumor mill and info drip.

Homeschooled316, w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

I think too many people have tricked themselves/each other into thinking long games are bad because they are long. No, it’s because 95% of the time (moreso today than in the past), a high hour-to-complete time signals a game with 10 hours or content stretched out to an absurd extreme, often in support of MTX/live service type features available ay launch.

An 80 hour game can be good if it has 80 hours of actual content. A 25 hour game can be bad if it’s still just 3-4 hours of real game stretched out to 25-30.

rustyricotta,

Very true.

Some of my recent games below. Good long games:

  • Elden Ring (~120 hours first playthrough)
  • Divinity 2 (some parts do slog)

Bad long games:

  • CrossCode (I know this game is well loved, so a bit of a hot take). I did complete it, but I would have been far happier if it were half as long.
Obsession, w Sony’s latest PS5 beta supports Dolby Atmos and up to 8TB of M.2 SSD storage

Hopefully this will fix the weird sound mixing on my Atmos setup - sounds from behind were much louder than sounds in front in some games (looking at you GoW 2), and I found no way to fix it

Madison_rogue,
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I'm definitely excited for the 8TB SSD support. My 2 TB SSD is 3/4 full.

Wit, w Is Atelier Ryza 1+2 bundle worth it?

Ryza is great!! I only played the first one though so take all of this with a grain of salt.

The combat is not at all like Genshin or BOTW. It's "real time" but actually turn based. Characters will have basic attacks/skills/items, think Pokemon style combat, but each time they use one it starts a real-time cooldown before they can attack again.

The combat is actually quite simple IMO and not too engaging. But that's good, because what it's meant to be is a stat check for the items you make.

Speaking of which, the main gemaplay loop isn't like your average RPG. You go out and gather resources, then you make items with them, then you go defeat enemies with those items to get their drops or unlock areas with better resources, rinse and repeat. But the most fun part of that loop, and the one you'll spend the most time on, is the crafting aspect.

You know how in the anime Ryza uses the cauldron? That'll be 70% of your time spent in the game. The anime doesn't showcase it but the synthesis system is really complex, and very fun when you get into it. Though I personally prefer Atelier Sophie's over Atelier Ryza's haha.

If you're worried about leveling mechanics, grind, etc. - there are levels but they're largely irrelevant.

ProfessorFlaw, w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

Yk what? Good, the most memerable games where abt 10-20 hours, celeste, ghostrunner, ac blackflag, these 300 hour games are boring

GunnarRunnar,

I don't personally mind 300 hour games but the way AC and most other games present them is exhausting. I don't want my map full of shit to do. I want to get the core experience, which should be the main story and after that sprinkle of stuff to do here and there which is all optional and there if enjoyed the world enough to keep going.

Why Ubi and others haven't figured this out, I have no idea. It's the best of both worlds.

Saymesies,

Yeah, would much prefer depth of content to breadth. I love exploring and finding things as much as the next completioninst, but if it is just filler, the world feels hollow. Last handful of AC games have been massive maps with very little uniqueness outside the main story. Also hate auto generated fetch quests and mobile game stores they shove in.

tox_solid,
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I remember beating The Bouncer in about an hour and 10 minutes when I was a kid. Not much game to play but I had a lot of fun doing it.

stopthatgirl7,
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Case in point, just compare Mass Effect 1 (about 30 hours) to Mass Effect Andromeda (well over 100 hours).

ZombieBait,

Ghostwire Tokyo felt like a pretty good length for an open world game. There were a bunch of relatively short side quests, and the usual collectibles but the whole thing was 100% complete in under 30 hours. Thier rougelike DLC add-on might push it over that, but it's basically a whole separate game.

Damage,

I had to force myself to finish Andromeda

CIWS-30,

Same, and I didn't even finish Inquisition. Bioware didn't need open world filler injected in its narrative based games and worlds, and those forced elements are what killed them off for a while. Then there was the disaster that was Anthem, which also had big, shallow open world and a craptacular mission design that forced you to a full stop to grind dumb boring shit (at which point I quit) before continuing the not terrible, but barely adequate campaign that I would've probably managed to finish if not for that grind gate.

stopthatgirl7,
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When BioWare announced they had made each planet on Andromeda bigger than the largest area in Inquisition, my stomach sank, because Inquisition had already been pushing it with the bloat.

I watched a review by this YouTuber who hated Andromeda but decided to give it another shot on a whim, only this time to just do the main and loyalty missions, and he said it was like night and day and the game actually was good and the story felt better and like there were actual stakes. All that more for the sake of more hurt the game more than a lot of folks realize.

iforgotmyinstance, w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

Does anyone still follow this franchise? It’s pumped so many half-assed sequels into the market that the brand has to be suffering.

harmonea,
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The brand suffers because people care about it. If no one cared, the brand would just wither and die, forgotten, like so many others have. This seems obvious enough that I really have to wonder, did you ask this question because you're actually surprised, or because you want to portray some weird image of being above all this?

rigatti, w Path of Exile 2 is no longer an expansion to Path of Exile 1
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I’ve never played it. Do people like this or not like this?

Skray,
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I think in general people do. The concern is that the devs will be splitting their focus and their team between two games, and it potentially splits the playerbase and the economy.

There are some concerns that this means PoE1's issues won't be addressed as well. PoE2 was made to solve many of the problems that PoE1 has, and they continued to develop the game beyond that scope to the point it became it's own product and changed too much of PoE, and because PoE2 is such a significantly different game, it risks alienating their existing playerbase, so they are now preserving PoE1's gameplay, while making the changes they wanted to make for PoE2 which should attract more players.

But that now means that those solutions that were developed to fix PoE1's problems are now only in PoE2 and tied to an overall total rework of the game built around those solutions and how they change the game. Things like how the skill gem system works to be more simple, mana reservation no longer existing, etc.

Ultimately it's no different than having WoW and WoW classic. Just hopefully they'll have a large enough playerbase between both games to justify maintaining both. Their idea of staggering releases does mean that many players will likely swap between the two though and play both.

They did answer in a Q&A later on at Exilecon that the games run the same engine and things can be ported between the games, if there is content that's popular in PoE2 they may release it in PoE1 and vice-versa. The only real thing that cannot be ported is the character animations.
This does also mean that since purchases are shared, MTX have to be made multiple times for the 7 PoE1 character models and for the 12 PoE2 character models.

tl;dr If you like the existing PoE1 gameplay, PoE1 will continue to exist largely as it is now. If you like PoE2 more, then you will have that. And if you like both you can continue to play both and there will be more overall content to play between the two with the staggered releases.

CIWS-30,

While that sounds bad for POE 1, the QoL changes and fixes for PoE2 sound like what I always wanted for PoE1. I want to like PoE 1, but many of the systems were too complicated for me to want to deal with, and since I was a casual, occaisional player, a lot of stuff would change by the time I would come back, and I wouldn't even know where to start anymore.

If they've reduced complexity and made things more intuitive, I might give PoE2 a shot when it releases. That said, if it's possible, they should backport as much of that stuff as they can to PoE1. There are still a lot of people who want to play it and probably would play it in the future, even with the launch of its sequel.

Skray,
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I heard a streamer describe it as while PoE2 looks harder combat-wise, there is a lot less hidden mandatory knowledge and building so it's more approachable.

PoE2 has more punishing mechanics, combat is more active and you need to dodge enemy attacks, and bosses reset HP if you die. But you don't have the same checklist of things you need to be viable, and there's less focus on knowing the mathed out optimal setups since support gems are now focused on changing skill behavior rather than providing multiplicative damage boosts.

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