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solsangraal, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games

nope. they might be counting dumptruckloads of cash, but $0.00 of it will have come from me

Gibibit, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games
@Gibibit@lemmy.world avatar

If Mario is 100x more expensive than it needs to be, and there are millions of games that are just as good for a dime, you don’t buy Mario.

leave_it_blank,

Gamers, be it on console or PC, are dumb. Time has shown this over and over again. Horse armour, overpriced micro transactions, golden cage launchers, games as a service, the list goes on.

There will always be people who buy overpriced stuff or don’t think about what will be in ten years.

inclementimmigrant,

Yeah, just prepare for 100 dollar games across the board WITH all of the shitty monetization at this point, gamers are going to buy their circus, consequences be damned.

ampersandrew,
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I doubt it. Maybe Grand Theft Auto and Mario Kart can get away with charging more, but a lot of games asking $70 aren’t finding many customers willing to pay that price right now.

Kirp123,

Not to mention that other publishers will be watching this closely. If Nintendo gets away with it they will make this the new normal.

Sturgist, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

Except it’s totally not. Maybe the only 100% legal in every single country way, but not the only way by half. Fuck Nintendo. Fuck $80+ for a game. And fuck the switch 2.

TheDemonBuer,
@TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world avatar

What other legal way is there that doesn’t require you to pay full price for the game?

Sturgist, (edited )
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

In the case of them rereleasing old games without doing a remaster, in Canada at least, it is legal to have a digital back up for any game you own, and running it in an emulator is legal.

(Edit: I’m implying here that classic games are $80 on the Nintendo store, they are not. Still legal to have digital backups of modern games, still legal to emulate them as long as you own a physical copy.)

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

But then you still have to buy the game.

Sturgist, (edited )
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

Sure, but it wouldn’t be $80 for most of them. (Edit: classic games on the Nintendo store are not $80, statement retracted. The general sentiment stands.)

Game deals is in New Westminster. Not necessarily great prices, but you can get Super Mario Cart for $60. And that’s a proper reseller, definitely get a better deal for a loose cart online…it doesn’t even have to be working. Get a better deal on one that isn’t functional, physical media degradation is one of the reasons why you’re able to keep digital copies.

missingno,
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I thought we were talking about Switch 2 games?

Sturgist, (edited )
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

You think they’re going to sell repackaged SNES and N64 games for less than that?(Edit: incorrect, they are in fact less than $80) How bout switch 1 games? Those are “modern” so significantly cheaper, still legal to have a backup, still legal to emulate…and will be run in an emulator on the switch 2, no native backwards compatibility.
As for switch 2 games…just waiting for a while getting them 2nd hand means they’ll be cheaper, if you can actually get a hardcopy, and all the things I just said still apply…

missingno,
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They do not sell SNES and N64 games for $80, no. You know those are on the NSO app already, right?

Look, if you wanna be mad that Mario Kart World is $80, that's fair to be mad at. But you don't gotta make up misinformation.

Sturgist,
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

Wasn’t intentionally spreading misinformation. Classic games, as you said, are cheaper. However switch 1 games are still $80. And my point about legally being able to emulate them stands.
I’ll retract my statements on the cost of legacy games here and go back through my previous comments and change them to reflect this.

missingno,
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Switch 1 games are not $80.

Sturgist,
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missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

That's CAD, the article in the OP was about USD.

Sturgist,
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

Just nitpicking now.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I can't tell if you were intentionally trying to mislead, but you know that this discourse was never about CAD, right? You know that the article is discussing USD, right?

It's not nitpicking to say that you've been misleading, whether intentionally or not.

Sturgist,
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Fair enough. Not doing it intentionally. Just a dumbfuck 🤷

Quicky,

Being in receipt of a gift.

But yes, that pricing is bullshit.

mesamunefire,

Buying it used? That used to be the norm. Or getting it at the library for free.

I believe Nintendo (and other industry leaders) are going to find out that their old games are the going to be the competition to their new games. If it’s too expensive and the old games are fun…there’s enough of a backlog for people to play.

That and indies.

warmaster,

Fuck everyone! You cool Gabe.

Lembot_0001, do games w ‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’: Former PlayStation boss reacts to $80 Nintendo games

‘If it’s the only place to play Mario, you buy it’

Can someone rephrase this sentence? I don’t understand it.

bjoern_tantau,
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People will buy the Switch 2 and its games despite the high price because of the exclusive Nintendo games you can only play on that console.

dormedas,

Which is amusingly also what Xbox and PlayStation had before everything started coming to PC.

0x01,

If you can only play mario on the switch, even if it costs a lot of money, people will generally buy the switch and the game.

Implying that people really like mario and that people are generally expected to do whatever it takes to play it.

catloaf,

What part is unclear? You want to play Mario, you buy a Nintendo console.

CarbonatedPastaSauce,

He’s basically saying “suck it up, buttercup”. They think people are going to have no choice but pay these prices, with all the crazy shit going on. Maybe the Switch 2 will be successful, but most of my adult video gamer friends have already said they are going to pass. Only the ones that still have small kids are considering it.

ragebutt,

He means “there are a ton of children with parents who cannot enforce boundaries and there are a ton of grown people who will make poor financial decisions”. Nintendo will exploit both

Hopefully someone will exploit Nintendo with a paper clip again

Katana314, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

“We are also pleased to announce that, next year, we will be adding support for Gamecube games other than Super Smash Bros. Melee.” /s

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

i C EMUlation is the way to go, huh doug?

SuperSpecialNickname, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

That makes no sense to me, it has ZL button from what I’ve seen and that leads me to believe that it’s more like a pro controller

shinratdr, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says
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I doubt it. Why wouldn’t it just be a modified Pro controller like every other classic controller they’ve released. My guess is they are just managing expectations that it won’t be automatically usable with every game and mapped correctly.

I doubt I’ll ever connect this to my Switch 2, it’s going to be a replacement for the aging used WaveBirds that are hooked up to my Wii. With BlueRetro as the receiver, my guess is they’ll work day 1 or shortly after. For that, they’re awesome options.

JigglySackles, do games w Hades 2 will be a Nintendo Switch 2 console exclusive at launch

Boo you whore.

Glad I have a PC. Again.

SplashJackson, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

Lol pathetic

JcbAzPx, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

I guess I’ll just skip this generation like with the WiiU.

WolfLink, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

Huh? My actual GameCube controller works with all games on the Switch 1, although it doesn’t have all the buttons used by some games.

In particular it would be absurd if this new GameCube controller doesn’t work with Smash Ultimate.

atrielienz, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

That sucks since it has analog triggers and a lot of people I watch were hoping it could be used for certain shooters.

woelkchen,
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“We’ve updated this article to note that Nintendo has made similar disclaimers with its previous retro controllers, which have ended up working with other Switch games.”

They’re just not officially supporting it. I hope Reto will informally make Metroid Prime 4 work with this the same way as MP1. I don’t like twin stick controls and mouse controls are not feasible on the go.

MudMan, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says

So it seems this may just refer to "official support" and the piece of news is at least misinformation-adjacent, but it does make me wonder if there is any forwards compatibility with the Pro Controller. There are plenty of solid alternatives for Switch 1 and that wasn't particularly picky about taking in third party devices.

Not sure if anybody has brought it up in the news deluge.

Khanzarate,

Yes it has Bluetooth support and, naturally, USB C.

It’ll continue to take anything that supports those, and that’ll include the switch 1 pro controller, since it supports those for other devices.

MudMan,

That's nice. Gamecube replicas are a bit of a niche case, but there are plenty of expensive fight sticks that would be great to use if compatible. I guess we'll know for sure once it's out.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Yes it has Bluetooth support and, naturally, USB C.

Even regular ass USB keyboards work with Switch. Usually not for control input but typing search terms in the e-Shop, for example.

Lanusensei87, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 GameCube controller is only compatible with GameCube games, Nintendo says
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“We’ve updated this article to note that Nintendo has made similar disclaimers with its previous retro controllers, which have ended up working with other Switch games. While this is no confirmation that the same will be the case with the GameCube controller, it does at least provide some hope that it won’t be as locked-off as Nintendo says.”

Well at least they got their clicks.

MudMan,

I genuinely can't tell if milking outrage is more prominent in gaming than elsewhere. I guess not, because... I mean, look at the planet in general, but it does feel like gamers got to that state of mind first and do it best, at least.

SpaceNoodle,

The headline is not misleading in any way. That’s exactly what Nintendo said.

otp,

It’s somewhat misleading. It’s not providing the additional background information, and it leads the headline with the claim (not that Nintendo is making a claim).

I don’t think it’s a bad headline. It’d be hard to include all the information in the headline. But if someone only reads the headline (something like 73% of people), they could end up with a mistaken conclusion. And those people will have been lead in that direction (so, mislead).

SpaceNoodle,

I think it would be bad form to put their speculation on the headline.

otp,

To clarify, I don’t think the writers did anything wrong. The headline will be misleading because Nintendo’s being somewhat misleading.

I don’t know how much the headline could be improved, if at all.

Nintendo says NS2 GC controller will only “officially” support GC games

Or if they can’t quote “officially”, they could quote “only”. Which could arguably be more clickbaity, but also clue in a casual reader that there’s more to what Nintendo officially says.

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