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JeeBaiChow, do games w Why old games never die (but new ones do)

No required online components that get stopped.

OmegaLemmy, do games w Why old games never die (but new ones do)
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What was it called again? Survivor Bias?

mriswith,

Survivorship/survival bias.

And yeah, it’s the same old “they really knew how to make * in the past”. Houses, bridges, spoons, video games, whatever. It’s just that the well made ones survive, and the badly made ones don’t.

YodaDaCoda,
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Listen my spoons from the 1950’s cannot be beat. I hate how hard it is to find them.

clay_pidgin,

Have you looked in your silverware drawer?

WhatsTheHoldup,

And yeah, it’s the same old “they really knew how to make * in the past”. Houses, bridges, spoons, video games, whatever. It’s just that the well made ones survive, and the badly made ones don’t.

Idk, there’s certain structures like the pyramids where you gotta give credit where credit is due.

They really knew how to make some shit.

MurrayL, do games w Why old games never die (but new ones do)

It’s well known that video games today are disposable pieces of slop.

Kicking off an article with such a provably incorrect and inflammatory statement is certainly a choice.

markovs_gun,

Yeah and looking at the past with rose colored glasses. There was plenty of “slop” in the past. It was such a problem in the earliest days of video games that it almost killed the entire industry.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983

Trex202, do games w Why old games never die (but new ones do)

There’s a LOT of old games that aren’t good.

Yermaw,

Its the same with music and films. They were so much better in the past and here’s the examples. Not included in the examples are the thousands of songs and bands that didn’t stand the test of time.

MBech,

There were other bands in the 80’s than Guns and Roses and ABBA?

DosDude, do gaming w Why old games never die (but new ones do)
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No mtx, dedicated servers, easy modding and actually a good product. Yeah, that tracks. These things are almost essential to have a lasting game. It’s the reason games like cs1.6 still go strong. Even for less popular games like jedi knight 2 and jedi academy. They would almost be forgotten if it didn’t check all 4 boxes.

Sordid,
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Easy modding helps a ton, but what really keeps a game alive is releasing the source code so that it can be updated by the community (or, in rare cases like Daggerfall Unity, some absolute mad lad spending over a decade reverse engineering the game and remaking the entire thing from scratch). The list is endless - the multitude of Doom versions, OpenMW for Morrowind, OpenJK for Jedi Outcast and Academy, even OpenJKDF2 for Jedi Knight 1, OpenRCT2 for Rollercoaster Tycoon, 1.13 and Stracciatella for Jagged Alliance 2, and so on and so forth. Without these modern source ports/remakes, the games would be nowhere near as popular as they are.

Also worth noting that new games not checking these boxes is not a failure, it’s by design. Publishers don’t want you happily playing old games, because then you’d have less of a reason to buy new ones.

rozlav,

If people around here play jka/jk3/openJK I’m interested to play !

DosDude,
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Count me in!

rozlav,

Okay sorry for long wait, I’ll try within next weeks answering here with a poll link then ! I can’t promess anything but this game is so much fun (* ^ ω ^)

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