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the16bitgamer, do games w The "Stop Killing Games" UK Petition is Live
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Saw this elsewhere, happy to see it’s already posted. Good luck UK, 6,257 and rising!

echodot, do games w Stop Killing Games Petition to UK Relaunched

One of the big problems about the original petition was that it had a focus on gaming. But this is a problem in the entire software industry, and as much as gaming is probably the more serious concern for the majority of people, it is considered by the government to be somewhat unimportant. Corporate software though has a more mature image, and so is more likely to be considered.

Any software that is sold by a company should be open sourced if the company chooses to end support. Either because the company goes out of business or because they just decide it’s no longer profitable to continue updating the software, and yes, this does include older versions of iOS.

A rising tide and all that.

Essence_of_Meh,
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These petitions are limited in scope for a reason - this is a small initiative and the goal is to focus on one part of the market which started the whole thing (the initiative, not the software killing issue), as well as to limit the number of big companies that could be affected (the potential opposition).

Sure, ideally this would expand on all software but you have to start somewhere, especially when you’re just a bunch of randos with little knowledge about law and no funds to turn it into a serious lobbying movement - one that could both get the political attention and was able to defend its stance from corporations.

deathmetal27, do gaming w The UK petition to Stop Killing Games is up. Please sign if you live in the UK.

Ross is really doing God’s work.

Semjaza, do games w The "Stop Killing Games" UK Petition is Live

“Destroyed”? Could we perhaps use more specific language?

Does this petition mean shut down, or a loss of bug fixing and anti-hacker support, or something else?

Essence_of_Meh,
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From FAQ on the Stop Killing Games page.

Q: How are publishers ‘destroying’ videogames?

A: An increasing number of videogames are designed to rely on a server the publisher controls in order for the game to function. This acts as a lifeline to the game. When the publisher decides to turn this off, it is essentially cutting off life support to the game, making it completely inoperable to all customers. Companies that do this often intentionally prevent people from ‘repairing’ the game also by withholding vital components. When this happens, the game is ‘destroyed’, as no one can ever operate it again.

Semjaza,

Thanks for the explanatory text.

Essence_of_Meh,
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No problem!

hahattpro,

They put DRM in the game, which no longer work if game server down.

fishsayhelo, do gaming w The UK petition to Stop Killing Games is up. Please sign if you live in the UK.

signed, thanks 👍🏿

Devorlon, do gaming w The UK petition to Stop Killing Games is up. Please sign if you live in the UK.

Signed, hopefully the committees response won’t be utter shite like last time.

vikingtons, do gaming w The UK petition to Stop Killing Games is up. Please sign if you live in the UK.
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Signed. Thanks for sharing

punseye, do games w Stop Killing Games Petition to UK Relaunched

I just want Blur to be revived. I know modded online servers exist for PC, but it would great to have it on consoles and play 4P splitscreen

MITM0, do games w Stop Killing Games Petition to UK Relaunched
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It failed because it was USA, you might have better luck in EU

Nilz,

I know UK left the EU, but I wasn’t aware they had joined USA.

echodot,

God, what an awful thought

MITM0,
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There’s actually some truth to that, believe it or not

Essence_of_Meh,
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I don’t think there were much if any attempts to make a petition in the US. If I recall correctly, Ross spoke with a lawyer who told him the chances for a positive outcome are close to null which is why he decided to focus on other markets - mainly: Australia, Brazil, Canada, EU, France and UK.

The failed petition mentioned was in UK, just like this one, but was canceled due to early elections. EU petition is still going, with a little bit over 6 months left, while Australian and Canadian ones closed last year. There was also a push to contact the local consumer protection agencies in Australia, France and Germany since they seem to have the tools to look into the issue as well.

SubArcticTundra, do gaming w The UK petition to Stop Killing Games is up. Please sign if you live in the UK.
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Do keep us updated

darreninthenet, do gaming w It's finally up! Please sign it if you're in the UK :) Petition: Require videogame publishers to keep games they have sold in a working state.
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Should have waited until after the election later on in the year as, all being well, we’ll have a new government. This shower of shit we have in right now won’t do f’all for the average person that’s against business interests.

frog,

I thought about this too, but then I checked the end date of the petition. It’s in October, as petitions have to run for 6 months in order to give them enough time to get to the 100,000 signatures. So by the time this petition ends, and then rises to the top of the list of petitions to be debated, we’ll definitely have a new government. 😉

dudinax, do gaming w Government Response - Petition: Require videogame publishers to keep games they have sold in a working state

If you buy a copy of a game, that copy should be your in perpetuity. Beyond that. there’s no need for regulation.

RvTV95XBeo,

I think the regulation would kick in to force publishers to enable users to set up servers of they shutter the official ones

dudinax,

Why? You aren’t buying the servers. You can simply not buy games that don’t have third-party servers.

RvTV95XBeo,

So, like every multiplayer game released in the last decade?

Why have a policy at all around abandoning games? Only buy games that are DRM free.

Hell, why regulate anything? Let the free market decide, just don’t buy it, bro.

dudinax,

That’s all we need for games.

Gamers don’t need to be protected from bad games because gamers don’t need good games. Anything that’s a real good or service should obviously be more regulated.

Josselin, do games w The "Stop Killing Games" UK Petition is Live

Thanks my king!

Legendsofanus, do gaming w It's finally up! Please sign it if you're in the UK :) Petition: Require videogame publishers to keep games they have sold in a working state.

Is it possible to spoof the website into thinking you are in UK? I just signed using a Google searched UK Postcode and after an email verification it counted my signature. If this works people from everywhere should be on this!

jaykay,
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Maybe, but it’s also possible they will check if the name matches the postcode

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