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Brewchin, do games w There's still no sign of Star Citizen 1.0, but it did just get a revamped referral program so the die-hards can tempt in even more saps

If it eventually gets outed as being Ponzi scheme, I’ll not be remotely surprised.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

I don’t actually think you can call it that.

I’m pretty sure they’ve spent every cent, considering how much they have in fact produced.

The part that boggles me to this day, is that they spend the money on making a litany of insanely high quality assets and features, with seemingly no plan for how they’ll fit together.

And then they proceed to spend even more money, and time, on trying to fit it all together into something that functions like a complete system.

And that’s before you discuss their obsession with “realism”. What there is to play, is marred with balancing issues. Better ships are just… Better. Because they insist on weapons and ships functioning “logically” within the game universe, rather than in whatever way is the most fun.

Fighters beat bigger ships because equipping the same weapons, a fighter can hit every shot it takes at a slow moving giant. Meanwhile the travel-time of weapons make the fighter completely unkillable for the big ship, because the fighter can land shots from a range where its own speed allows it to dodge literally everything the big ship might send its way.

They’ve been buffing the shields and ammo counts on bigger ships, but all that does is make the fight last longer.

The project is real, but it’s a mismanaged catastrophe.

Asafum,

Two of their biggest mistakes were: one, essentially hiding the fact that the single player game Squadron 42 has taken the lions share of the development focus for the last 6+ years. This makes it appear like they just don’t know what they’re doing at all with star citizen and that’s why they’re slow (they still don’t 100% know what they’re doing).

Second, they made their sound design guy who was just interested in being a pilot and eventually learned how, to be their lead ship performance/gameplay director/developer (not sure exactly on the title name.) that has lead to the ships just not flying how people want or expect them to. That and Chris Roberts wants “WWII, star wars, type dogfights” when people want Newtonian physics, excess speed, fighting.

A special third I suppose: they need money to continue, I get that, but there is a special place in hell for their marketing team.

nova_ad_vitum,

The project is real, but it’s a mismanaged catastrophe.

It’s basically what happens when you have a project with overly understanding financiers, an overly ambitious creative head, and absolutely no concern whatsoever for avoiding scope creep.

Kind of amazing really. I can imagine in centuries past an architect becoming the personal favourite of a king so he just keeps making the palace he’s tasked to build more and more extravagant since the king keeps giving him more money endlessly.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Balancing realistic weaponry is always going to be exactly the way things are balanced IRL:

https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m54evg82j61rtr1jto1_400.gif

MDCCCLV,

The money is going to salaries, so it’s basically just extended development. They’re all working and doing something. It’s basically just instead of releasing a game 6 years ago that was barebones and okay they’re making the sequel and won’t release the final game until they’re well done.

I’m confident it will release eventually, maybe another 5-8 years. As long as the devs don’t die of old age.

Spaniard, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman
@Spaniard@lemmy.world avatar

Been there, done that. Eventually you need to get up and go find a job.

TankovayaDiviziya,

Yes, but the motivation behind the rhetoric is far more sinister and cynical. They’re demonising affordable healthcare as excuse to stay home and play videogames.

GreenKnight23, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

does jerking off while I’m supposed to be working count?

finitebanjo, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

You know what, he’s right. I’ll go get off my ass to spend the evening running my 2 million dollar quarts mine and then swing by my 875k dollar quarts furnaces, weight seperation, flotation cells, and crystalization facility to create a bunch of semiconductor grade silicon used in solar and electronics production.

OH WAIT! I DON’T HAVE $3M FACILITIES TO RUN! Somebody else is out there doing the work that used to take a hundred men. The world doesn’t need us all doing 12 hour days, the world wouldn’t take us if we even offered.

dzsimbo, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

Oooh, I’m one of those! Gaming on foodstamps and social health in a US state, AMA.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

How does it feel being rich???

dzsimbo,

Truly wonderful.

You need the gaming in this lifestyle to help divert attention from not being able to get comfort foods at month’s end.

Otherwise it leaves me all the time to realize the physical and mental hells I am putting myself through. I’ve been qualified for free health care for over a year, but I just arrived to the point where I can reach out and engage the system. I initially thought enrolling would come in handy if I get into an accident, but last week I made the call to start preventive treatments.

I have an appointment with an actual doctor next month. I am also getting the ball rolling on the emotional side. I was contemplating moving back home, but now I might give this current iteration some more time.

edit: i just reread the title (of course I didn’t read the article); I’m 40.

ProfThadBach, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

Didn’t he say this shit months ago?

Tetragrade, (edited ) do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman
@Tetragrade@leminal.space avatar

First they came for the gamers, and I did not speak out, because I was busy hitting a sick 360° quickscope on Angel City.

Sanctus, do games w There's still no sign of Star Citizen 1.0, but it did just get a revamped referral program so the die-hards can tempt in even more saps
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly it has some cool shit going on. Its a real shame they’ve attached themselves to this business model of exclusivity. It seems it also effects the development of the game heavily.

DacoTaco,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty sure its the unchained peter molyneux that was the birth and death of star citizen’s development :p

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Everyone can pull a little molyneux, as a treat.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

At least Molyneux has put out some good games. Yeah, they don’t have all the earth shattering features he’s promised, but there’s some good titles in his portfolio. I’m not convinced Star Citizen is a good game.

DacoTaco,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

Those games had a publisher telling him no to features and needing to finish existing stuff and not have scope creep to begin with. I said unchained peter for a reason :p

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

That’s fair. As far as I know the same was true for Chris Roberts. Well, it wasn’t so much that he had a publisher that would edit him as it was that he was fired and Microsoft came in and cobbled together what was there into an actual game (Freelancer).

Cocopanda, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

Got laid off. I now have two jobs. One at a store for the health insurance. Which I’ll lose in an upcoming strike. Which is most likely to happen. Because fuck corporate. Then I have my start up job that is a side job till they can afford to pay me salary. I make all commissions now. But sales are a tough thing to get in this field. Thankful for Ai to help email so many people.

SincerityIsCool, do games w There's still no sign of Star Citizen 1.0, but it did just get a revamped referral program so the die-hards can tempt in even more saps

I tried it out to see how it was coming along a year or so ago. It made Kenshi look polished.

jaupsinluggies, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

I’d be interested to know how I can pay my electricity bill with my free healthcare. Also I need to go to the supermarket today; how do I convert free healthcare into a trolleyful of food?

SpaceNoodle,

Also where the fuck is this free healthcare?

jaupsinluggies,

Civilised countries like the UK and other European countries. Technically it’s not free because it’s paid for by taxation, but it’s free at the point of use: if I go and see a doctor, I don’t get billed, but I do pay 9% National Insurance tax.

SpaceNoodle,

Pretty sure this article is about the USA

JIMMERZ, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

Where is this free healthcare? Because I’m paying out the ass for my very minimal coverage.

don, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman
@don@lemmy.ca avatar

Another boomer fucking idiot saying idiot fucking boomer shit because idiot fucking boomers voted like boomer fucking idiots.

raynethackery,

He’s fucking Genx, my generation. I hate every GenXer that sold out. Now that I’ve gotten that out of my system, remember we are fighting class warfare. Don’t let them divide us along generational lines. My good friend is a Boomer and is as liberal as can be. My two coworkers are GenX and both voted for Trump.

don,
@don@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m also genx (xennial if it matters) and I’m referring to the boomer mindset, not the baby boomer generation. There are zoomers who voted for the current fascist regime and baby boomers who voted Harris. I hate generational warfare too, but “boomer” is a convenient term for an appalling mindset that can infect anyone, regardless of generation.

WanderWisley, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

Can these monsters please just fuck off!

ThatGirlKylie, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

This is just the “violent video games make people violent” argument from the 90s and 00s. Fear mongering at its core.

RizzRustbolt,

“These violent games make you violent!” “These cozy games make people lazy!”

Sometimes I think they just complain because it’s a fetish for them.

ThatGirlKylie,

That darn avocado toast!

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