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stephfinitely, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware
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Worst part is Denuvo has been shown over and over again to actually cause issue with game performance. The switch already reaching its limits so this just make thing worse.

neutron,

Video game historians 50 years later will scratch their heads everytime the word ‘DENUVO’ is inside thr readme. I hope they have more efficient methods to bypass today’s bs then.

ogeist,

How to stop third parties developing on your platform part 11.

Also the emulated version of whatever game will run better with higher quality as it is actually doing right now.

SlothMama, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

I just need to know which titles have it so I don’t buy those games. It requires an always online connection and that’s a major dealbreaker for me.

Sentinian,
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I dont see that in the article, does it say that elsewhere?

Peruvian_Skies, (edited )
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Edit: I'm an idiot.

Sentinian,
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No? I’ve definitely played denuvo games on my steam deck completely offline. It’s like a once a month check or something.

And according to the website the drm is moreso hardware based, which is much more feasible on set hardware like the switch versus PC.

Fuck Denuvo and all but let’s keep speculation and facts clear

Peruvian_Skies,
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You are right, I mixed it up with something else.

Sentinian,
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Also sorry about my tone, I realized afterwards it came off as kinda dickish.

Peruvian_Skies,
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Don't worry about it, you were right.

ReadyUser31,

Always on connection? For a portable console? Great idea

Sentinian,
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I will say this post isn’t completely true. Denuvo (on pc) requires online checks but from what I’ve experienced it’s typically every 2-4 weeks. I’ve played persona 4 and 5 on my steam deck without internet just fine.

Edit: Of course this could change for switch. It would be backwards as fuck, but I suppose it is possible

turkalino,
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even when I’m home, my switch is in airplane mode unless I’m actively playing online. it’s crazy how often some games try to phone home, never realized until I got into this habit and started seeing the “please turn off airplane mode” popup

Brocken40, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

It won’t last, the switch can’t take the performance hit.

breadsmasher,
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Unfortunately I don’t think itll make a difference to whether people buy the games or not. Itll tank performance but itll be in games that people buy regardless of performance. IE Pokemon at launch was in an awful state and still sold like hotcakes

Peruvian_Skies,
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It might actually preclude some games from even getting a Switch port at all due to performance.

Tetra,
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Bold of you to assume Switch players care about performance.

ubergeek77, (edited ) do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware
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By blocking unauthorized emulations on PC, studios are able to increase their revenue during the game launch window, which is the most important period for monetization.

Uh huh, yeah, this will definitely just create money out of thin air from people who couldn’t afford it in the first place.

The Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection will ensure that anyone wishing to play the game has to buy a legitimate copy.

To say nothing of Switches running custom firmware. There is absolutely no way for a game to detect this, so it will still be easy to pirate with those. Games will still leak early. Nothing will change.

This is a grift. Studios will probably spend more to license this “technology” than they stand to “save” by preventing emulation. They are taking advantage of clueless game studio execs and they know it.

ogeist,

This smells 100% to a management decision. Just the lack of understanding of the technology makes it clear.

Poiar, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

Damn… I feel sorry for legitimate Switch owners.

Hopefully Nintendo will find that degrading the performance isn’t the way to sell more copies of a game.

redcalcium, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

What’s the point of locking down the console if games still include DRM?

echo64,

Locking down the console stops the vast majority attempting piracy, drm attempts to stop the small minority attempting piracy

AnonTwo,

I don't think it really has much to do with DRM. It's practically well known at this point that consoles are easy to pirate through emulation. Especially with the constant day 1 emulation articles

Spudwart, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

Glad to see all these companies coming together to support the steamdeck.

FartsWithAnAccent, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware
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Thanks, I hate it.

Hiccup, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

Any game with denuvo is a game I won’t buy.

Vilian, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

emulation emulate every bit, so denuvo can’t do shit, we’re fine

Kyyrypyy, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

I waas on the fence on getting a Switch, now that the price has dropped, but “Switch 2” has been rumored. I guess I won’t be getting a Switch then. Or whatever the next console will be.

I wonder if some games will perform better emulated, as the emulation would not need to put resources in to running Denuvo.

neal33,

What do you consider performing better if emulated? Most switch games look and perform better on PC already due to upscaling. Some obviously have issues rendering though.

Kyyrypyy,

I mean that Denuvo WILL cause performance drops, and if said malware needs to be cracked and removed in order to emulate it, it means the emulators don’t have to bother emulating the built-in malware, and can instead use more resources to run the game. Even better than currently.

And will any of this help with piracy? Well, the average user will no longer be able to backup the official version, and you’d be breaking the law anyways, if you cracked it, so there is “no extra harm” skipping the part where you buy the official version, instead of just downloading the already cracked version. Sure, you risk getting malware, but with the official one you are sure to get malware.

[EDIT]: Let’s add: I don’t advocate for piracy, but if piracy is more convinient that the official route, it’s what will drive those who don’t mond pirating stuff.

nanoUFO, do games w Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection
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You can only play Switch games on aging switch hardware nothing else.

PeterPoopshit,

People need to stop supporting Nintendo and other developers that employ unethical practices. I’m never buying a switch or any Nintendo crap probably ever. Fuck 'em.

ABCDE,

Okay?

pastermil,

I’d like to agree with you on this…

But I can’t deny the fact they make good stuff…

ono, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

Yuck.

leavemealone, do games w Nintendo Switch Emulator Protection

I hate Denuvo but that is an interesting approach to compare the difference of behavior between the emulator and the original console. It means too that Nintendo is more concerned by the emulation than by switch hacking. I wonder if Nintendo will use them for their next system…

Gullible,

Nintendo makes money on their console sales as well. Sony and Microsoft use the loss leader approach and recoup their costs through game sales and licensing. Still a decent profit if you buy to pirate.

DrPop, do games w Denuvo by Irdeto now registered as authorized Nintendo Switch™ middleware

So just a roundabout way to keep people from emulating games? People are gonna figure out how to relate your games. We took many years but we can finally emulate Banjo Tooie. Good games sell well and don’t lose really to piracy, bad (lazily made) games deserve to be pirated

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