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sosodev, do games w John Riccitiello is stepping down as CEO and president of Unity

Guys he didn’t need any severance. Dude was already loaded with shares. He’s sold 421 million USD worth of shares over the past few years.

Davel23,

No one's saying he needed it. But knowing how corporations work it's quite likely he got a nice payout.

sosodev,

I understand. I guess I’m more so pointing out a number that we have already.

radix,
@radix@lemmy.world avatar

Paraphrasing from Money Never Sleeps:

What’s your number? The amount of money you would need to just walk away from it and live. See, I find that everybody has a number, and it’s usually an exact number. So what is yours?

More.

30mag,

I don’t understand people who have money like that and just hop from one company to the next. If I got money like that, I’d start my own company.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

As someone with his own company I can assure you that you don’t. Life is a lot easier when it’s not your baby on the line. Do you think he’s going to lose sleep over Unity? Not even a little.

30mag,

More stressful, but also more rewarding I imagine. Also, I don’t like being told what to do.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Definitely. Still, if I had that much money, I would do something other than start a company to make more money. I’d try to accomplish something that helps others and makes this world suck a little less. Instead, I’ve focused my entire efforts towards the survival of myself and those close to me.

30mag,

if I had that much money, I would do something other than start a company to make more money.

I wouldn’t be trying to make more money. I see myself operating a small business related to hobbies. Maybe model airplanes or ham radio or something. Breaking even would be fine.

RAAPAIHTA, (edited ) do games w John Riccitiello is stepping down as CEO and president of Unity

busts into company

destroys reputation

refuses to elaborate

multi million severance

leaves

Just chad shit.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Did the same at EA (IIRC).

echodot,

EA is still around though

Spaceinv8er,

This totally off topic, but back in the day Chad used to mean taking a giant dump or being a little piece of shit. So to me, you basically said the same thing twice.

I feel like the whole reason that changed was a Dad told his son “stop being a Chad kid”. So, when the kid asked what that meant, the Mom stepped in and said it means a cool dude. Then started telling all his friends “My Dad thinks I’m a Chad!”

So now its a giant Dad joke that has whooshed a whole generation.

Tygr, do games w John Riccitiello is stepping down as CEO and president of Unity

How many millions in umbrella severance for this? Remember kids, just get the highest position in any company ignoring your morals and no matter how badly you screw it up, your rich!

CitizenKong,

Ignoring morals and basic empathy is probably the hardest part. Which is why psychopaths are perfect for those kinds of positions.

jeremy_sylvis, do games w John Riccitiello is stepping down as CEO and president of Unity
@jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social avatar

My only complaint is such maneuvers tend to come with golden parachutes - his mismanagement of Unity leading to the whole fee debacle and erosion of trust deserves no such soft landing.

echo64,

Typically written into the contract, it’s not like they are doing it out of love

Okalaydokalay,

True, at the end of the day, he did irreversible damage to Unity’s image with this move.

In his defense, he likely wasn’t alone in making this decision or approving of it, so there’s that.

bitsplease,

Yeah he’s definetely not innocent, but this is 100% the board at Unity throwing the CEO under the bus to try and control the damage

jeremy_sylvis,
@jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social avatar

You’re not wrong; I suppose my criticism is as much of that practice as it is of this individual specifically.

Mic_Check_One_Two,

Yeah I can almost guarantee that the original plan was always for him to leave. He was going to be the scapegoat with a golden parachute, allowing the company to keep the unpopular changes while disbursing the bad publicity. It’s exactly what he did with EA too.

Basically reddit’s Ellen Pao plan. Bring in someone unpopular to make the unpopular changes, then let them go with a massive payout while keeping the unpopular changes.

But then Unity realized that the companies weren’t going to forget about the unpopular changes and it wasn’t going to blow over. Companies started bailing left and right and switching to other engines. At that point Unity realized that the smoke was actually a full blown fire, and started doing whatever they could to try and regain some trust. But by that point it was too late, because companies had already seen the potential for abuse. And as the saying goes, when someone tells you who you are, believe them. So now companies are unwilling to go back to Unity, and Unity is grasping at straws.

Chariotwheel,

He's been there for 9 years, not like he was just recently hired.

Mic_Check_One_Two,

And he was at EA for several years before it was voted Worst Company in the World two years in a row.

hemmes,
@hemmes@lemmy.world avatar

They were winning somewhere I suppose

slaacaa, (edited )

I haven’t followed the topic beyond the initial backlash - has Unity totally / partially gone back on the changes?

nothingcorporate,

Mostly. The runtime fee now only kicks in after $1 mil, and you are limited to a 4% cap, and they are honoring the old EULAs, so if you want to avoid the fee, you just stay on the current version of Unity. They can still eat my farts, but this is much better and won’t kill a bunch of games the way it would have before.

vrek,

Somewhat… Not completely but most of the really bad parts were changed arstechnica.com/…/unity-makes-major-changes-to-co…

Mic_Check_One_Two,

Yes, they retracted the original policy changes with one of those boilerplate “we’re listening to the community” apologies. But the fact still remains that they have done it once and could just as easily decide to do it again in the future. One of the biggest reasons people shifted to Godot is because it’s free and open source. Godot (like many other free open-source softwares) had struggled with adoption until now. But now that Godot has exploded in popularity and game devs have begun learning it, the hardest hurdle is already passed and there isn’t much incentive to switch back to Unity.

It’d be like if there was a mass exodus from Windows to Linux. And then Microsoft apologized for whatever caused the exodus, but everyone had already installed and learned the basics for Linux. There would be very little incentive for everyone to change back to Windows, because as Linux gets more popular and development progresses, it gets easier to use and more robust.

The biggest hurdle for switching to a new platform is overcoming user apathy. After all, users will choose to use what they already know, even if it’s slightly inconvenient. That’s why the first phase of pretty much any software launch is making it look similar to something that already exists. If you can greet users with a familiar UI, they’ll be more likely to consider adoption. But Unity managed to actively drive users away from their platform (and into the arms of an open-source competitor) so the biggest hurdle has already been jumped.

jeremy_sylvis,
@jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social avatar

Yeah I can almost guarantee that the original plan was always for him to leave. He was going to be the scapegoat with a golden parachute, allowing the company to keep the unpopular changes while disbursing the bad publicity. It’s exactly what he did with EA too.

I hadn’t considered that… fair point. Pay someone handsomely to take the immense PR hit and move on.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Yeah I can almost guarantee that the original plan was always for him to leave.

I don’t think so, mostly because of how long it took for him to be “retired” after the whole fiasco, almost a full month. Had it taken only a week, I’d find that more plausible, as that’d actually make it look like it was his fault and that Unity as a company “saw the error in their way”

Or it could be that they suck even harder at saving face than we thought.

Steeve,

You’re looking for blood you’ll never get unfortunately

dantheclamman, do games w John Riccitiello is stepping down as CEO and president of Unity
@dantheclamman@lemmy.world avatar

Wonder what kind of severance he’s getting

VonReposti, do games w John Riccitiello is stepping down as CEO and president of Unity

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