So, the trap of modern game setups is that there is a lot of super high powered hardware out there- but unless you’re driving 4K monitors at 120hz+, or striving for super fast 360hz+ refresh rates for competitive gaming, you don’t need any of it. And people often get too caught up in the flashy new latest-and-greatest to recognize what’s a good deal and what’s just showing off.
Define your use case. What’s your desirable budget? What kind of games do you want to play, do you want to do VR, what kind of display do you plan on using. Because while it’s easy to drop $2800+ on hardware these days (like I did), it is still very possible to end up with a $900-1k machine that is super capable at 1440p and can run most all games you throw at it for at least another 5 years. Dpending on what exactly you want to do with it, prioritizing certain areas of hardware over others will pay off.
These games came out in very late teenage-hood for me, but the amount of nights piled around the TV with the bros, pounding beers and bongers, and scaring ourselves…oh man the memories. Those games were absolute rippers, Parasite Eve 2 especially (except for that end boss)
Sub the 7950x3d for a 7800x3d, and swap the GPU for a 4070 or 7800 xt. You can likely swap the MB, but I’ll let someone else speak to that one.
Where I would spend money is with two NVMe drives. A 1TB drive for the OS and a 2TB game drive. You can add a spinning HD for mass storage if needed.
If you really want to save some money, go with an x570 MB and a 5800x3D. But I’d stay with the GPUs from this gen. Downside is you have no room for upgrades down the line.
For reference, I have an x570 MB, 5800x3D, and a 6750xt GPU. I’m not having issues running games.
Definitely agree that 7800x3D is better value for gaming. Depending on the games played and choice of GPU, the 7600 could provide an even better value option. The 4090 is the only offering from Nvidia that makes sort of sense IMO (and only if you want to spend a lot for the best) with 7900 xtx > 7900 > 7800 the better choices in order of higher to lower performance and lower to higher value.
That being said, all the components are way overkill for 60 fps at 1080p. If you are not going to capitalize on the performance with a higher framerate and resolution monitor, there really is not a need for this tier of components at all. A used B550/B450 board and a 7600 could easily drive modern gamed with lower settings at 60fps/1080p at a fraction of the price.
You’re kidding, right? I wish a bank would be so lenient with me as to let me pay off my interest-free loan with terms of ‘whenever you feel like it, off the money you make as a freelance forager.’
Don’t know how many AAA games you plan on playing, and I genuinely no expert, but 90% of the games I play are 3-5+ years old and my Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 (or is it 2050? I always forget. Lol) works just fine as a GPU.
if like, you aren’t too attached to the look of them, you could save a bunch by using an air cooler instead of an AIO water cooler, they don’t actually perform better than decent air coolers.
Personally I hated the game the first couple of hours before I discovered the autopilot, because I was dying too often too achieve anything interesting. Then I discovered it, and then actually learned to fly, and since then I just loved the game. Maybe consider if you might be in a similar situation, or if maybe it’s just not your thing!
If you feel like you’ll need more RAM or a bigger SSD then that’s a simple thing to do but this will give you all of the components you need for a solid system at whatever your price point is.
That said, the “Great” range and up will play pretty much anything. You can even play pretty much any game on the “Good” range and up. So if you are looking to save money, I’d say the “Great” range will last you a good 5 years right now at least.
The main thing you’ll want to look for is resolution/pixel density and the refresh rate of the headset. bonus if it can support foveated rendering. I have the Reverb G2 which has a very high display resolution but is only 90hz, for some it’s just not good enough. I find it okay, but it being WMR is an issue for my wants, which is the Index Knuckles. The hand tracking just feels so good and is worth it for the games that utilize it - they’re also just more comfortable than the stock G2 controllers are. It’s a mixedVR setup I run, but it works with most of the games I’ve played (quite a few VR titles)
If there were a SteamVR headset that were consistent $349 on sale with the specs of the G2… alas.
Games wise I would look at the ~5 popular genres, which would be flight simming/racing, in-VR but not VR games (Tetris effect, Moose Life, KOTH emulators in VR), rhythm based (highly recommend pistol whip), and your action games, shooter and swordsy.
Some solid overall games Duck Season, Boneworks (or Bonelab, now. These 3 are all made by the same people), Superhot VR, REZ Infinite, Stride, Pavlov VR, Arkade, Naked Sun, King Kaiju, Holoball. If you like zombies, Arizona Sunshine and Saints & Sinners (Walking Dead) are fun. Bandit Point is a pretty good tower defence ish, and hyper psychic gauntlets is a little more laid back but still fun, though maybe on a sale, along with Vertical Shift. Can’t not mention Blade & Sorcery, Gorn, Half-Life Alyx, pretty much sacrelidge. There’s also a few asynchronous games, Phasmophobia but also Vox Machinae I learned recently as well as Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes - particularly great for 3+ friends. Sim and arcade sim styles VR Regatta, VTolVR, V-Racer Hoverbike, Star Wars Squadrons, Elite Dangerous.
If you like creative hobbies I also recommend any music based program, Paradiddle for drumming, VInyl Reality for DJing (your own music on a hard drive), SynthVR for an extensive modular synth, Electronauts is more scaled back but with more than synths in mind. Vermillion for painting in VR and OpenBrush for VR paintings. There’s SculptrVR as well.
I mentioned Pistol Whip which is basically musical John wick simulator - there’s also beatsaber which everyone recommends but it’s always $30 and honestly, its pretty mediocre… imo of course, lol. It’s strength is the insane amount of user content but I found myself enjoying almost every single variation of BS. There’s audioshield, synth riders, and against which of them was my least favorite. Of them all though, PW just keeps me coming back for more - but they’re all fun.
Finally for games - on PC there’s a number of emulated VR games like Metroid Prime or Mario Sunshine that are worth trying. Indie Weird VR games are usually the best ones. Oh, and there are games that are more experiences than they are games, sometimes this is good, sometimes it’s a scam. I’d say the barometer is somewhere along the lines of Hellblade Senua Sacrifice VR - good experience if you know what you’re getting into, better than flat. VR meditation or drug trip experience - eh, less so. Subnautica is also worth a shot.
Anyway, you won’t be able to play many of these on console VR but I’m sure some are around. If you ever do foray into VR I recommend checking out some games, the general genres you encounter and see if they’re for you. VR is in a bit of a weird space right now but there are still lots of awesome games, it’s just a matter of measuring which era they’re from and how developed they were. 2016 Vive games aren’t always bad, but they aren’t always fleshed out. That doesn’t mean that 2020 VR games are any better, though… lol.
The last thing I’ll mention for real is programs to integrate things into VR, you can turn many games into 3D-like games with VorpX or mods, but it can take some finagling (and money sometimes). VorpX is ok. I’m more interested though in overlays, as that allows you to bring panels into VR. My favorite thing during lockdown was setting up Elite Dangerous, running SCRCPY to mirror my phone on my PC, and that window captured with XSOverlay (or OVR Toolkit). Let’s you have your phone in VR. Pop up another window for streaming and maybe one more for discord and baby we are living in the year 3000 in 2020 - VR space flight simming with floating windows for phone, media, and social… those were the days… stupid real life.
I was part of the hardcore build it yourself crew for years and years, but I find now that for the last 10 years or so now, and especially with the death of places like Fry’s and all the bullshit Newegg pulled, it’s way easier and cheaper to buy a pre-built box that’s maybe 90-95% there, then tweak what you need to tweak.
Get that manufacturers warranty and forget trying to part it out yourself.
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