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Grizzlyboy, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I don’t know. I might build a new PC, and make this one a steambox. SteamOS does sound VERY exciting, and I haven’t ever been excited for an OS.

pinball_wizard,

Nice!

SteamOS getting an official PC release (if/when) is going to cause the first time I’ve spent a lot on PC hardware in a long while.

I’ll build it from parts of I must, but I really hope they go for a tie-in deal with Alienware or System76 and just let me buy a big pre-installed tower to play on.

Ttangko, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Ttangko@lemmy.world avatar

I’d consider switching if somebody spoonfed me into being able to use/know it’s basics.

I am currently way too overstimulated with switching to privacy-focused and less (US-)corpo-reigned alternatives (like lemmy instead of reddit)

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I installed Linux on a raspberry pi recently (first time using Linux in 15+ years), and in addition to reading stuff on Lemmy, I found that this is a really good use case for chatgpt or similar LLMs.

I was able to get chatgpt to explain stuff to me, ask it to dumb it down further, provide examples, correct my incorrect assumptions, etc.

Trainguyrom,

LLMs have been trained so heavily on Linux documentation that you can even have it hallucinate a Linux terminal at you!

pinball_wizard,

I’ll second recommending Raspberry Pi as a secondary machine. That way your primary computer is still around as a fallback.

If you have a spare monitor to add, a Raspberry Pi 400 for $100.00 is a great way to try out Linux on dedicated hardware.

The Canakit version even comes with a printed welcome guide.

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

I have 15 years of experience and am willing to do infinite of that on matrix.

Zidane, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

The only real reason I’m still on Win 10 is because of Escape from Tarkov and Photoshop. I need to get a new m.2 and just start sorting through my crap I guess but I haven’t gotten the motivation yet lol

BigBenis, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Jumping to Linux for sure. The hardest part is going to be finding time to learn it first…

who,

Have you considered making a Linux virtual machine now, and learning small things a few minutes at a time between other tasks? That ought to give you a head start when it comes time to commit.

REDACTED,

I like to suffer

chronicledmonocle,

Start with something simple like Linux Mint. You can run it in a VM, if you want to “try before you buy (in)”.

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

I do infinite free troubleshooting/support on matrix, and I have 15 years of experience, feel free to reach out!

Vanilla_PuddinFudge, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’ve gotten to a point where the quality of a PS2 game is higher to me than most AAA releases. I mostly play retro games, more open multiplayer games that don’t block users like TF2(and TF2) and indies… so, no. I don’t really need Windows for anything.

MeowKittyWow, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@MeowKittyWow@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m gonna switch to Linux. My laptop still works fine, no need to upgrade yet.

Cocodapuf, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I still use steam on Windows 7. I don’t see the problem.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Do you worry about connecting it to the internet?

Cocodapuf,

Nope

Shannaresh,

Just please make sure it’s not internet connected if you value such things as your privacy, and bank accounts not being breached extremely easily. End of security support is no joke.

Cocodapuf,

I don’t really use the browser on that machine. It still has basic virus protection, and such.

End of security support is no joke.

Well really… that all depends on if you’re laughing.

Shannaresh,

Using a browser isn’t the only way it would be connected to the internet though, I know for sure there are malware bots actively searching for network connected XP machines that can brick systems just for existing on a public network, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the same wasn’t the case for 7. Anti-virus can only do so much for you if you’re a victim of ransomware or some remote execution exploit found since EOL

Cocodapuf,

Well, I have the ultimate defense against ransomware, full disk backups. Honestly, with automated backups, the whole world is a little less scary.

Infynis, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

I have procrastinated the switch this far, I’ll be damned if my laziness gives in now! Lol

iterable, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@iterable@sh.itjust.works avatar

Why? Nothing requires Windows 11. It doesn’t even have a new directx which is why most had to upgrade from 7. Browsers and malware software will work for years. Hell malwarbytes still updates for Window 7.

zewm,
@zewm@lemmy.world avatar

You really don’t understand security updates.

iterable,
@iterable@sh.itjust.works avatar

I do and if the computer is for work yes update to 11. But for gaming only why would anyone care if it doesn’t break your games? I do nothing but game on a PC and have no need to update until it is required for gaming. Also it is not like on that date all security updates to that point vanish. Firefox and Chrome will still update for security. Malwarebytes will still also update for security.

DragonTypeWyvern, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux. I’ve been putting if off because of hardware reasons that would be annoying to explain beyond the solution is upgrading the motherboard, which is bottlenecking me anyways.

ArchmageAzor, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know. If more devs start to support Linux, I probably will.

SplashJackson, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Why need upgrade at all? I’ve never needed “support” before

zewm,
@zewm@lemmy.world avatar

I hope this is a sarcastic joke.

If it’s not, support means updates. More importantly security updates.

There is a reason you don’t put a windows XP machine on the internet.

chaogomu,

XP might actually be somewhat safe to connect by now. Most of the viruses and worms have updated past it by now.

GoodLuckToFriends,

Noooooo. There was an article in the last 6 months about someone connecting a windows xp to the internet just to see what happened, and within 10 minutes it had been scanned and infected. They repeated the experiment several times.

It’s child’s play (like, literally script kiddie level) to run automated scans and if a vulnerability, like a really old operating system, is found to then attack it.

chaogomu,

Well, security through obscurity never really did work

Trainguyrom,

The “support” most importantly includes security updates. You better bet every hacking group has been working at finding fresh zero days for Windows 10 and is stockpiling them to start hammering any PCs that can’t be upgraded this October

REDACTED,

Maybe I’m remembering it wrong, but didn’t MS push important security updates to Win7 even after end of support?

SkaveRat,

They are doing that only for paying users for 10

…microsoft.com/…/windows-10-supports-ends-on-octo…

Danitos,

That was an exceptional case, I think with the WannaCry malware. Not something they’ll regularly do.

Atmoro,

Think of it this way:

Would you rather leave door wide open and signs saying come inside and take all the info about me, along with all my moment

Or

Have your data, & money protected in all kinds of defense systems so it makes billions times harder to take all of that

That’s what security updates are for. Same for other apps as well when they find things bad actors will try to exploit

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

In fairness, after October that security system will still be in place. The difference is that as soon as attackers finds a bypass, the security system will be worthless against future threats

sevan,

I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some exploits that have already been discovered that people have been sitting on in anticipation of support ending soon.

secret300, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Been using Linux for years and the only issue with it is the incompetence of big studios. And them going out of their way to make sure stuff doesn’t work on Linux.

Moobythegoldensock, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’m on 12, and will be upgrading to 13 when Trixie hits stable.

flop_leash_973, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I left Windows ~2-3 years ago since I got tired of having to keep up with ways to disable the MS account requirements or disable the ads every time there is a major version upgrade on a platform I use every day.

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