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EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted, do gaming w Please help me select parts for a "competent" gaming PC

Don’t know how many AAA games you plan on playing, and I genuinely no expert, but 90% of the games I play are 3-5+ years old and my Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 (or is it 2050? I always forget. Lol) works just fine as a GPU.

bionicjoey, (edited ) do gaming w Should I stick with The Outer Wilds? (EDIT: yes)

It sounds like you keep dying early on in your runs, which might be keeping you from seeing the main thing that is going on in the game.

Very Minor SpoilerThe sun is dying and is about to go supernova, you will die in about 20 minutes, even if you don’t get yourself killed via dumbness. Your job is to figure out why you keep respawning, why you get to keep your memories when you respawn, what is causing the sun to go nova, and how to stop it.

You should primarily be using the console inside your ship, which keeps track of the web of information you’ve already learned and helps you figure out where to go next. A lot of the game is using the translator to read ancient writing, so if that’s not your thing it may just not be for you.

raunz, (edited )
@raunz@mander.xyz avatar

Actually major spoiler ::(

TheSambassador,

I mean, it’s the main mechanic of the game, and happens in the first 22 minutes of the game. I would not describe that as a “major spoiler” but it is neat when it just happens suddenly.

raunz,
@raunz@mander.xyz avatar

I didn’t mean to offend. But what’s a minor spoiler for some might be a major spoiler for others, which is the case for the OP. It’d be pretty sad to miss out on the “when it hits”-moment

bionicjoey,

Well, OP was talking about putting the game down, in which case they never would have seen it anyway. I’d rather someone know it’s coming and stick with the game than not know about it and stop playing

MJBrune, do gaming w Please help me select parts for a "competent" gaming PC

A steam deck works well enough for most games if you want something handheld but dockable into a full computer. Gives you that sort of console feel without a console ecosystem.

High settings for most modern games jump from game to game. I was able to keep high settings with a 1080 and a Ryzen 7 with 64 gb of RAM. I think 16-32 GB ram should be fine but I am also a game developer so I use extra RAM for debug. Nvidia sent me a 3080 for testing last year and I just installed it.

bl00dmeat, do gaming w Please help me select parts for a "competent" gaming PC

What I usually tell people is "set a budget". You can always fall in to the trap of $20 more here, $40 more there...etc and explode your budget.

If you can keep moving the needle, you can keep dumping more into better components in different areas.

Use PCPartPicker to make sure everything is compatible, check the price history to see if there's a similar component available for cheaper or if you're getting a good value, and make decisions on what is necessary. Also, pick a date. You can hang around for MONTHS waiting on a certain part to hit a price drop.

bl00dmeat,

Going back through your specs...bro a 4090 costs basically the same as my whole PC that's running games at 120 FPS+ on a 4k monitor with no issues.

Check out combo deals on Newegg for Mobo+RAM+CPU, or Microcenter if you have one nearby (I don't). Your biggest factor for gaming will be the GPU. You can run 60+ FPS on a 1080P monitor on 5 year old midrange GPUs. If you need 4k res, ask on PCPartPicker forums.

C4d,

The above build (with a suitable NZXT H7 case) can be built for around £3,800; such a generous budget might be doable but deep down I know this build is over the top and that I cannot really justify ploughing that much into something like this. Thank you for the PCPartPicker recommendation; I will try that.

bl00dmeat,

I got mine for just under $1800 US early this year, with just online deals available at the time, no waiting for better pricing (honestly PSU prices were INSANE at the time and that made a difference). I wouldn't change a single part today. It does everything I need (including video editing/rendering)

shakcked, (edited ) do gaming w Please help me select parts for a "competent" gaming PC

Resolution (1080, 1440, etc) will be critical for your high and 60fps qualifier. Is RTX a deal breaker for you? Are you looking to produce content (or edits videos, 3d rendering, stable diffusion, etc)?

Without knowing any of that I can still identify CPU, ram, and GPU you listed are overkill for gaming purposes.

Edit: Gamers Nexus YouTube and Website is a great for getting rundown of current gen hardware and their capabilities. They typically give really good recommendations based on value instead of just raw performance.

C4d,

I have little doubt that the above setup is overkill for my purposes. My difficulty is that I am so far behind and out of date in my knowledge of what constitutes a decent baseline specification that I am having to approach this from a position of embarrassed ignorance.

A couple of folks have recommended PCPartPicker so I will give that a go.

bl00dmeat,

Short answer: good plan. Check PCPartPicker. Your build is definitely overkill for most people, and you can easily get away with consistent 4k gaming for much cheaper.

nekusoul, (edited ) do gaming w Please help me select parts for a "competent" gaming PC
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

Simply going one step down from buying every “halo” product would already do wonders for a significant price/performance increase.

That said, when building a new PC I usually start with the recommendations listed at Logical Increments, which has a neat table sorted by budget. Anything at or above the “Suberb” should give you what you want at 1440p.

I’d also very much recommend a high refresh rate monitor, preferably 1440p, which has either GSYNC or FreeSync with a good variable refresh rate range. It really helps with maintaining a smooth presentation as you aren’t forced to keep your game running at a fixed framerate anymore.

C4d,

Thank you for the link; will take a look at that as well.

popcap200, do gaming w Please help me select parts for a "competent" gaming PC

Yeah. We don’t know your budget, but if you are just playing at 1440p, you could cut down to a Ryzen 5, a 4070, and 32gb of ram easily.

Anissem, do gaming w Please help me select parts for a "competent" gaming PC
@Anissem@lemmy.ml avatar

Second the PCPartPicker recommendation. You can also share your build ideas with people via that site, very useful.

garretble, do games w What game has a great story and is worth the time investment?
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

Have you done any Last of Us, yet? Both games are excellent.

Darksouls1234,

I would agree that the first one is good, the second one is boring garbage in my opinion.

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

I like the second one better than the first.

daredevil,

Both have powerful stories, and I can respect a narrative that takes risks like TLOU has. I have some gripes with the second's narrative, but I would still recommend it to many. I've also been thinking about it recently, so I'm pleasantly surprised to see it mentioned here.

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s totally fine that a game may not be someone’s cup of tea, but I recall the second game getting a lot of negativity for…some reason I don’t fully remember.

Outside of the story the gameplay is better, the tech is better, the environments are better. Even today it holds up as a powerhouse in these areas.

But, again, a recall a lot of people trashing the game, and I’m not saying that’s you at all. Don’t get me wrong. I’m just trying to remember why a certain subset of people online were going all apey over it. To me it’s absolute top tier game to this day.

daredevil, (edited )

I recall the second game getting a lot of negativity for…some reason I don’t fully remember.

Some of the popular complaints went into spoiler territory. Since I can't seem to spoiler tag on kbin, I'll only briefly mention that they generally centered around one of the main character's choices early on, while also targeting their appearance for being "unrealistic".

Outside of the story the gameplay is better, the tech is better, the environments are better. Even today it holds up as a powerhouse in these areas.

I agree overall. I also applaud Naughty Dog for the considerable number of gameplay options and accessibility features. If I remember correctly, someone has even beaten TLOU1/2 who was born blind.

I’m just trying to remember why a certain subset of people online were going all apey over it.

Not gonna get into it here, but the lesson learned by the protagonist felt like it missed the mark a bit when looking at the events of the game after things were said and done. Ultimately, I think it's fairly minor considering that's maybe my main gripe. I suppose I had some issues with pacing too, and thought some aspects of the plot should have been fleshed out differently. I was hoping to revisit TLOU1/2 eventually to see how my thoughts have changed.

Perroboc,

First one. The second one… I’ve read it’s more of a vengeance story in the first half, and then you play the same story from the other side, making you see how awful revenge is.

Does it have scenes like the one with the giraffes?

ProffessionalAmateur,

Yep. I hated ND at the time but by the end of the game I was blown away. One of the most immersive incredible gaming experiences I’ve ever had (story-wise, both games I mean). As amazing as the first was I almost prefer the second… I’m still torn.

It’s not for every one though and it recieved a review bomb before it was released and a lot of those people still hate it.

To answer the giraffe one and without spoilers… yep there’a lovely moments in it that stick with you

mayo,
@mayo@lemmy.world avatar

I’m replaying it right now on Survivor. Great game but so grim. I can’t do long play sessions because I find it too taxing. It’s extremely polished so you can play it at any difficulty level and it works well.

I’m here now because I want to find another game to play alongside or after that isn’t so heavy.

n3er0o, do gaming w Should I stick with The Outer Wilds? (EDIT: yes)
@n3er0o@lemmy.ml avatar

I had to ‘fight’ at the beginning as well, but after eventually progressing and ultimately finishing the game I can tell you it was one if the, if not THE best experience I’ve ever had. To this day certain parts soundtrack of the soundtrack make me tear up when I listen to them.

That being said you really need to want to understand the game in order to complete it. I don’t think it’s a mindless experience that you can just have on while watching something else on a second monitor. If that sounds like a game that you might like I absolutely recommend sticking with it!

perishthethought,
@perishthethought@lemm.ee avatar

I see. Ok, I’ll keep that in mind. It seems I need to be more involved myself as I continue to play. Thanks!

sylverstream, do gaming w Should I stick with The Outer Wilds? (EDIT: yes)

I’ve given it three tries as everyone was raving about it. Just didn’t click, guess just not my game which is fine. So perhaps it’s not your game either.

perishthethought,
@perishthethought@lemm.ee avatar

Yep, fair point. Keeping this in mind.

randomsnark, do gaming w Should I stick with The Outer Wilds? (EDIT: yes)

Where have you visited so far? Usually I’d think you’ve encountered something other than the ship within a few hours, and most of the things you can encounter should give you ideas as to what else to explore. Have you literally only floated around in the ship, or is that a way of saying that the things you’ve found aren’t interesting to you?

perishthethought,
@perishthethought@lemm.ee avatar

Mostly the latter. Let’s see… I fell into the sun, got eaten by a huge fish, drowned in some water, suffocated on a moon with no atmosphere (and figured out what the suit is for). And just plain gotten my ship into a place it couldn’t escape from, mostly by getting stuck in the trees on my home planet nor far from the launch site. But I did talk to the guy on the Attlerock (is that the right name?) who whistles. I guess that’s something.

Really, these all just seem like random encounters and I am not learning anything yet. I get the “keep exploring” idea, but I would think there would be some sort of clue by now what I am looking for or why, but everyone I talk to is all, “keep exploring”.

deluxeparrot,

Use the ships log computer to give you an objective. It should have some areas filled in now from your exploring. Find something to do from there.

Once you start blasting off with an objective it becomes so much more fun.

You haven’t been playing wrong, but the transition from aimlessly exploring to “going out on a mission” is something that loses people.

randomsnark,

Talking to people and examining writing will usually drop references to a couple of other places to explore, or to unanswered questions that are worth looking into. Even if they seem minor, these almost inevitably lead to putting together pieces of the larger story, regardless of which pieces you start with. I don’t specifically remember what whistling guy talks about, but it sounds like that’s the only potential lead you’ve found so far. It’s certainly possible to make progress without ever talking to him, via all kinds of things that can be independently stumbled on, but if you haven’t found anything else I bet revisiting his dialogue will give you an idea on where to search next.

(Okay, I checked the wiki and can confirm that, while Esker is not the richest source of new options in the game, his dialogue does include instructions that lead to new threads for you to pull on)

perishthethought,
@perishthethought@lemm.ee avatar

Ok but wow, then those are some subtle hints. I’ll start paying way more attention to what people tell me. Thanks!

bionicjoey,

You haven’t visited the ruins on the attlerock it sounds like. That should probably be your next step. They are on the other side of the moon from the whistling guy.

perishthethought,
@perishthethought@lemm.ee avatar

Gotcha, thanks!

kid4today, do gaming w Should I stick with The Outer Wilds? (EDIT: yes)
@kid4today@feddit.uk avatar

Honestly, the game might not be for you. I had a similar experience with it. I kept thinking it would change up a gear at some point but it never does.

Floating around in that ship and reading bits of text is basically all you do.

perishthethought,
@perishthethought@lemm.ee avatar

Hmmmm… ok thanks.

j_p_, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of September 24th

Apex Legends has become my go-to comfort game (non-ranked, and without any voice or written chat, everyone muted by default).

I’m also trying to get into Street Fighter 6, but just watching tutorials melts my brain. Everything is an overwhelming info dump.

Zummy,
@Zummy@beehaw.org avatar

Dont give up too quickly on SF6!! It’s not as hard as it’s made out to be. You can get away with quite a lot with very little intentional play/very little knowledge, and mashing the rest of the time. The other concepts you can pick up as you go once you’re comfortable!

j_p_,

Thanks for the encouragement! I’ll keep trying, I just feel like there is a very steep curve until I reach the point of not having to use 110% of my brain power. As things become muscle memory, they’re becoming easier and more enjoyable.

Zummy,
@Zummy@beehaw.org avatar

The joys of learning something complex. :) First its just a hassle to get the moves you want when you want them, but that comes quick enough. Then its recognizing the importance of anti-airs and how to do those and land those. But soon enough you figure that out too.

Just stick to one thing at a time, drill it and enjoy the small W’s. Once you’re comfy you can explore more. There’s always a new thing to explore no sense in trying to do all of them right away.

j_p_,

That’s definitely my issue, there is so much to learn that I’m trying to learn too much at once. I’ll try focusing on one thing at a time. Thanks for the tips!

Crankpork, do gaming w What was the formative horror game of your childhood?

Resident Evil 1 and 2 were the games that I always went over to a friend’s place to play, and when Resident Evil 3 came out I got my own copy, and it felt much more like “my game”.

Those, plus the original Silent Hill games (1 and 2) really helped define my taste in games, and they’ve got something I feel even the more recent throwback Survival Horror games don’t have, in that they, and the original Alone in the Dark, shared some DNA with the old Point and Click adventure games, like Monkey Island, and Myst. Puzzles based on collecting things, and combining or using things on or with other things, often in mind-bending, nonsensical ways.

The Spencer Mansion, RPD Station, Raccoon City, and Silent Hill were all big explorable areas that opened up as you progressed, and you really got to know them. Games these days feel like they’re scared of being accused of “backtracking”, so you never spend long enough in any one area to really get to know it.

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