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boomer, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

“Nowadays” ? They’re just getting good! Did you mean to say, “why are mobile games that suck, so popular” ? It’s because they’re accessible and usually F2P .

sleepybisexual,

Take angry birds for an example,

It used to be a good game, you had your level, Maine an optional micro transaction.

Now the modern angry birds is an ad riddled mess

boomer,

Oh yeah. I get it. I guess that’s why I stopped playing those long ago 🙂

I’m a huge mobile gamer though. It’s amazing what we can play on our phones with an xbox controller. It’s better than the pc experience for me because I can map the controller how I want to and am not stuck with the defaults.

Tons of amazing games coming this year. ZZZ wuthering waves Azur Promelia Etc.

yuri,

You can remap controllers on pc though, like at a system level if you use steam. I remember having to go through a whole rigamarole to customize controls for a mobile game that didn’t support controller, I had to use a weird third party tool that interpreted the controller input as virtual screen touches. It almost kinda worked lmao

boomer,

I remember way back trying to play genshin on my pc and it wouldnt let me map the right button trigger to attack , like i like it and I was like, i’m just going back to mobile.

yuri,

I forget that games like genshin exist lol

Blubber28, do games w Sprocket: Tank Design is such a fun game!

While it does indeed kind of smell like an ad, keep in mind this is not some triple-A bullshit. It’s made by a single dev and has a heavily involved community on reddit and discord where competitions are hosted and suggestions are made. Regardless of tankies reputation, that kind of behaviour is not tolerated in either of those communities. I’ve been playing it on and off and have over 500 hours into it by now. It is a very niche game, but for those that like tanks and military games in general, it is a real gem.

SupraMario,

Does it have MP? Or is it SP vs bots?

Blubber28,

It is currently singleplayer vs bots and the scenarios are admittedly limited. However, again, single dev (at the moment). Multiplayer is on the roadmap far in the future and will likely not really be pvp as that introduces challenges for balancing.

For now though, the designer is very free in what it lets you do for the most part and has a lot of options.

If you’re on the fence, I would recommend looking up some videos on youtube that showcase the game’s capabilities. Make sure to pick a decently recent one (ergo past half year or so).

SupraMario,

If the dev got this working with MP, hell even just coop vs like a horde of tanks, with your friends, it would be awesome. Right now it looks like a lot of fun but won’t last to long for me. I’ll have to keep an eye on it.

redcalcium,

Hmm, what do you mean when a tank game has a tankies reputation?

jarfil, do gaming w Interactive Loading Screens - High Hell

The best loading screen is: none.

Load levels in chunks, preload the first chunk of the next level before the player reaches the end of the previous one, and either have a smooth transition, or at most put a skippable cutscene.

Loading screens are for poorly developed games.

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?

This is a really hard question for me to answer. So I’m going to go with a bit of a catch-all.

I really like the GBA. But the DS can play DS and GBA titles. But the 3DS is great too and can play all 3 and then some.

I guess the 3DS. There’s just so much that can be packed into it. I haven’t played mine in a while. I wish it was easier to install a capture card in them. There was something special about the games from the GBA to 3DS. The limitations of the hardware had developers experimenting, and we ended up with so many interesting titles. If you factor in the couple n64 games ported over to the 3DS, it’s just so much nostalgia in one handheld.

If I had to go with a runner-up, I think it would be my series X. Being able to play so many backward compatible games is also super nice.

If I truly had to pick single consoles only, with only the games designed for that specific console. I would probably go with the 3ds and the xbox 360. The 3DO or Dreamcast would come after as they had so many unique titles.

I never got to play the ps1, ps2, or psp and vita. So I’ve been curious what I’ve been missing out on over the years.

sleepybisexual,

You could always emualtr them. Psp is a good system

Megaman_EXE,

Playstation and psp emulation is not something I’ve looked into much. I’ll have to do some digging!

sleepybisexual,

Ppsspp is good,

Vimm.net has most of the ROMs. For PSP tekken dr is a very good game. Especially with resolution upscale

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

I find I very rarely use it as a handheld. I find it kind of heavy and awkward to hold after longer periods of time. I kinda wish Nintendo made another 3ds, lol. I’m extremely curious about what they’re going to do for the switch successor

grrgyle,

I’d go even farther back - make another GBA

sleepybisexual,

I want both a new GBA and a new 3ds.

grrgyle,

I think maybe I just want a GBA

Which is probably currently available if I look around

sleepybisexual,

I want a GBA, but the money to get one is not worth it.

A GBA is not worth 100 euros to me.

grrgyle,

That’s true, especially since I don’t have any of the old physical games.

I might get one of those “retro handhelds” (rg351p, PowKiddy, etc) one day. Those at least seem much more reasonable, and probably sport more open architecture

sleepybisexual,

I’m big into those, you want some recommendations?

grrgyle,

Hell yes!! I would love that. I’m definitely looking for something lofi - like even playing SNES games would probably be overkill. Bonus points if it can play contemporary retro games, like for PICO-8

sleepybisexual,

OK, so yih looking for something that can do SNES well, that would be low power, unless you wanna have newer systems,

So I need answers for these 4 questions

What shape you want?

What budget?

How much power do you want!

What os do you want?

For SNES the cheaper end will work

grrgyle,
  1. Smaller the better, not wide like a Switch or Stream Deck.
  2. Under 200 CAD, but flexible for the right device
  3. Limited 3D but no more. Like FX chip level
  4. Linux? Hopefully I understood the question

Thanks for taking this time!

sleepybisexual,

OK, I have some ideas.

For all of SNES and some other stuff as a bonus the ambernic rg35xxh seems like it’d be a good fit. Tho it is horizontal. About 80-90 USD I think

The rg35xx is similar but vertical with no sticks

For something that’s like 40 USD ish there’s the powkiddy v90.

Tho for 200 cad that’s like mid range tier. But most powerful ones are landscape.

A good yt channel is retro game corps.

My personal machine is the retroid pocket 4 pro. An android handheld that is very powerful, can emulate up to some switch

grrgyle,

Oh the different retroid pockets look really cool. Thanks, you’ve given me a lot to dig in to!

sleepybisexual,

Didn’t think you’d like a retroid cos they run android but they are extremely good.

The 4 pro is good, it runs a lot well, up to 2d switch games.

I heard horror stories about the 3 and flip tho.

Also powkiddy stuff is bad at mid range, only consider them for very cheap,

Megaman_EXE,

That would be really interesting. Heck I would even just take people making more games with the gba’s restrictions. I’ve always thought it’s super interesting. As developers get used to working with a console or system, we end up rolling into the next generation. So they don’t really get to flex their skill as much as I think they probably could.

I sometimes wonder what we would see if older consoles had another 7 years of life added to them. I try not to think about it too hard or I get kinda sad about the games we’ll never see lol

strongarm, do gaming w Interactive Loading Screens - High Hell

There was an old Spectrum Game that actually loaded up Pacman first before the main game.

Kissaki,

What’s a Spectrum game? Is that a game series?

Blackmist,

The ZX Spectrum was a home computer popular in the UK back in the 1980s.

Games loaded from audio tapes, and would frequently take 5-10 minutes to get into a state where you could actually play them.

Now get off my lawn!

Blackmist,

One of them had Space Invaders. I can’t remember for the life of me which one. It was apparently used on the C64 quite a lot, under the name Invade-a-Load.

strongarm,

Yeah I can’t remember my game either, it might have been something like Joe Blade 3?

boomer, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

What you call rigamarole is the standard way to map button presses to tge screen. It only looks like rigamarole to a PC user who is coming to gripa with how a controller interfaces with a screen. A third party mapping utility is STANDARD use case because you’re mapping button presses to the screen. That’s litterally how it works and it works well. When we mobile game players play games THIS is how we play and this IS THE reason why what you call “mobile games” TsumTsum candy crush etc are losing popularity because people be playing more intense games on mobile these days. Because of controller support.

sleepybisexual,

If you game on controller on android I think you’d love an android gaming handheld. Tho I don’t get the whole clip on controller thing

boomer,

That’s what we do. Xbox controller comes with a clip on. This is mobile gaming. Been this way for about 5 years now. Popularized by pubg at first but then more of this controller style games came along and the button mapper apps got a lot better. Right now the best are Octopus and Mantis. I prefer mantis.

sleepybisexual,

For android gaming (emulation) j have a handheld I use.

knokelmaat, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?

Portable: my black Gameboy Advance SP, playing my original Gameboy games on it (Donkey Kong Country and pokemon Blue)

TV: this is gonna sound weird, but I absolutely love my PS5, it’s just so sleek and I love the controller haptics and finally having most games running at 60 fps. Again I mostly play older games on it, but a lot of them got PS5 updates like Death Stranding, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon, Spider Man, Days Gone…

Strawberry, do games w Controversy and Censorship

lmao

NeptuneOrbit, do games w Controversy and Censorship

As others have said, it’s called self censorship. If you don’t like a game, don’t buy it. If you like porn buy it.

Lurra, do games w Controversy and Censorship
@Lurra@lemm.ee avatar

I’m against censorship. Sucks not being able to see what the developers created first hand you know. First thoughts that come to my mind is its because of corporate, political or religious reasons. Really could give a crap about someone wanting to see boobies move as they battle monsters 😂 I just see it as you see an ad and when you get the product it’s nothing like you envisioned. Stuff like that isn’t new and folks will learn to focus on these examples and decide in the future to support or object such business practices.

NocturnalMorning, (edited ) do games w Controversy and Censorship

Is this really something you waste time thinking about, whether or not the devs waste their frame budget on boob jiggle physics?

Seriously, there’s so much to optimize in a game to get good performance, jiggling boons is way down on the list of things to worry about.

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I think it depends on the developer. They might lump it in with other realism things like hair physics.

I think what OP is talking about is things being removed. It doesn’t have much to do with optimising the game.

NocturnalMorning,

It does if you’re using physics to simulate it. Sure, if it’s just part of an animation you’re not losing anything by having it. But if you’re calculating the physics in real-time, it’s costly. They do it for hair, clothes, and apparently boobs now.

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I get that. I’m saying showing less thigh doesn’t make the game run faster and developers might not view something like that as a waste.

… apparently boobs now.

I feel like jiggle physics has been around for just as long

all-knight-party, (edited ) do games w Controversy and Censorship
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

It depends on what the vision is supposed to be. If the dev was making a hentai game, but had the scenes censored, then that fundementally destroys the purpose of the game and ruins the point.

If it was a game like Stellar Blade which seems like it has a lot more going on in terms of story and worldbuilding, combat and death, then the sexual parts seem almost more exploitative and distract/clash with the primary themes. I have not played it and cannot say absolutely, though, in this case.

Then there are games like the Witcher 3 where sex plays a moderate part in the life of the protagonist and adds to the realism and grit of the world, and so sexual imagery actually adds to the game in that way.

So, I think it all depends on execution and perceived intent.

Edit: none of this is to say I support censorship, I think as long as content is clearly marked it should be up to the player what they want to see, I'm talking about what the censorship impacts in the game experience.

Ashtear,

The first Witcher encapsulates Geralt’s (many) sexual conquests in collectible cards. And almost none of the encounters have any bearing on the plot. Having a hard time not calling that exploitative.

Much of what’s going on, especially lately, is simple xenophobia. There are arbitrary restrictions on what can be sexualized when Asian character designs are used.

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

I've only played Witcher 3 and found a lot of the interesting parts of the world to be the darker parts you don't see in other fantasy games, a lot of the themes of the quests are very heavy, like the bloody Baron's quest as an easy popular mention.

Therefore, the addition of places like whorehouses or other quests related to that deepen the realism of the world in a way that something like Skyrim would absolutely never, and if those bits were ever censored out it would reduce the immersive realism of the world, to me

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The sex cards in the first Witcher were particularly egregious. One of them is a woman who sleeps with you as a reward for saving her from being raped.

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

I suppose I'll edit my comment to only mention the third

jeffw, do games w Controversy and Censorship
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Changing designs due to market pressures isn’t censorship. Remember the Sonic movie, where they redid the animation due to criticism? Nobody was outraged at that change but when it’s tits, all of a sudden people care.

Melonpoly,

What “market pressure” are you talking about? The game topped charts because it seemingly wasn’t afraid to have an attractive female lead while backing that up with fun gameplay. The difference with the Sonic movie was that no one liked the original design, and the movie wasn’t patched after people bought tickets.

RageAgainstTheRich,

You know there are a shit load of games with attractive female leads and amazing gameplay right?

You say it as if developers are terrified to make attractive girl characters…

Katana314,

Summarized it much better than I could.

If you’ve ever seen isometric pixel sprites, authors often draw those first “naked” to get the shape right. If they show an in development model that’s naked, and later have added clothes, is that then “censorship”? No of course it fucking isn’t.

Katana314, do games w Controversy and Censorship

There’s such thing as consumer-driven censorship.

Let’s say that I’m a game developer, and also a terrible person. After beating my game, it shows a victory screen that says “You know, Hitler might have been right!” Everyone will shit on the game; and that’s just normal player reaction.

Now, it’s easy to predict that no one would be so negative towards giant exposed breasts - except yes, plenty of people are. For all the porn-obsessed pervs out there, tons of people just want to enjoy an action adventure game without cringing distractions.

Don’t believe me? Look at Xenoblade Chronicles 2. The game lost a bunch of its potential sales to players that might enjoy a sweeping JRPG, but couldn’t stand frequent boob/butt shots of its overendowed and subservient female main character.

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