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dojan, do games w Video game actors speak out after union announces AI voice deal
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I’m hoping this also means that voice actors can choose not to enter such a deal?

arquebus_x,

It does, yes. And they can also choose to opt out of future uses of their voice in the AI trained model. Which essentially means that their contracts are on a per-project basis, rather than allowing the game developer to force them to contract for the current project and any future use of the model by that game dev.

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

The way I see it, if they want to train models on someone’s voice they should hire them specifically for that purpose. Ergo, clips that are used in production should not be used for training voice models.

arquebus_x,

The contract would be a combination contract, for performance and AI training. That's explicitly the thing that's been agreed to here.

johannesvanderwhales,

Yes but it also means that the studios can only hire someone who will sign off on it.

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Not if they want a particular name, like Elias Toufexis seems pretty against having his voice cloned.

johannesvanderwhales,

That’s fine for people who are established, but unions are supposed to protect all members, especially the ones just getting started who don’t have as much bargaining power.

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Then everyone should unionise and fall under the same protections. It’s how it works here in Sweden.

ArbitraryValue, do games w Video game actors speak out after union announces AI voice deal

I sympathize with the voice actors but at the same time I think this is a losing battle. I expect AI voices to be widespread and employment opportunities for voice actors to diminish (although I think high-budget games will still use human voice actors for a while). Maybe being open to AI is actually the best case scenario for getting at least some of the money involved.

Jomega,

So tech outpaces legislation, as it is wont to do since legislation is notoriously slow, and so because of that our reaction should be to throw our hands up and not even try? Perhaps you don’t sympathize as much as you think you do.

ArbitraryValue, (edited )

I don’t think this is a case of tech outpacing legislation because I expect that ultimately legislation will be rather favorable to tech. There’s too much money to be made using AI for the government to extend copyright protection to training data.

(Plus, I sympathize with voice actors in the sense that I’m sad that a lot of them will lose their jobs, and that’s independent of what I think about AI development and copyright law.)

Cybersteel,
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

Horse drawn carriage drivers, industrial seamstress, miners. Being supplanted by technology is a tale as old as time. The only difference is the perceived uniqueness of creative jobs holders that look down on the then blue collar work, now suffer the same sort of fate as them. Eventually the only work to be done is gonna be performed by AI. With the economy being trended towards AI buying other AI products. Ironically, the only work humans be doing at will be back to heavy labour jobs, with the ones at the top being AI.

Even_Adder,

They’re not giving up though, what they’re doing is getting ahead of it. Assuming their deal is favorable for their members, they’re making it so that anyone who wants SAG-AFTRA synth voices has to go through their contracted company which they have collective bargaining power or strike an equal or better deal. Along with blacklisting companies from SAG-AFTRA work that use non-union synth voices.

This is way better than leaving actors on their own to bargain with companies, which would have definitely happened. Rather than have companies wear individuals down and drive pay down, they get to dictate the terms, together.

chloyster, do gaming w Netflix is reportedly exploring adding in-game ads to its gaming service

This sucks lol. I actually think netflixs gaming selection is pretty solid. I will immediately lose interest if they pull this though

alyaza,
@alyaza@beehaw.org avatar

what would you say is the stuff of note in their selection currently?

chloyster,

On Android, not including stuff you can also get outside netflix:

  • deaths door
  • into the breach
  • shovel knight pocket dungeon
  • Poinpy (from the downwell dev)
  • Spiritfarer
  • Moonlighter

There’s also a few things that you can get through Netflix that’s also available outside of it, like dead cells, world of goo and btd6

Overall it’s my go to place when I feel like finding a game to kill some time. They have a lot more than that but those are some of the higher quality ones

orca, do games w Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition is reportedly coming to PC

I’ve been playing the first one on my Steam Deck so this is good timing.

Oneeightnine,
!deleted4231 avatar

How does that thing run?

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Zero Dawn on the Deck is damn near perfect.

orca,

Yeah, it’s wonderful. I was playing it for nearly 2 hours straight on a flight recently. If you adjust the CPU clock speed and a couple other things, you can squeeze some solid play time out of the Deck with Zero Dawn. It runs amazingly smooth.

Oneeightnine,
!deleted4231 avatar

Good to hear. I’ve already finished ZD on the PS4 but it’s nice to know the Deck can handle that sort of thing.

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

If it ran well on a PS4, it runs well on the Deck (at 800p). The Deck is really close to a portable PS4 in performance, ignoring architectural differences.

The Deck struggles with modern titles targeting the PS5. It technically can play these games… But the kind of “technically” that really doesn’t result in a good experience.

Oneeightnine,
!deleted4231 avatar

Valve’s doesn’t help with it’s ‘Verified’ status. I picked up Dead Space because it’s verified. Within an hour I’d hit the refund button. It ran. It ran at 20fps and looked like absolute ass, but it ran. Not sure that’s what they should be pushing people towards however.

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I agree. They’re super inconsistent with the verification.

Sometimes a game plays perfectly, with zero crashes, at 60 FPS and great graphics… But it’s not verified because one line of dialogue uses a font Valve considered too small.

Then you have a game barely running at 20 FPS and potato graphics, crashing every 43 minutes, and yep totally verified, ready for the Deck.

Oneeightnine,
!deleted4231 avatar

I guess they’re wanting to show that it can handle the very biggest games? Problem is if people can’t trust the verification process then it’s effectively useless. After my Dead Space issue I’ve already made it standard practise to check ProtonDB before I grab a game.

TheColonel, do games w Roblox is coming to PlayStation next month

GOOD NEWS, NOBODY!

pimento64, do games w It sounds like Bethesda’s Indiana Jones game will be revealed in 2024

Indiana Jones and the Crash to Desktop
Indiana Jones and the Extender of Scripts
Indiana Jones and the Softlocked Quest
Indiana Jones and the Corrupted Save File
Indiana Jones and the Codex of INI
Indiana Jones and the Bad Quality Control wait a minute let me do that one again Indiana Jones and the Bad Quality Control

HelixTitan, do gaming w Larian says it’s discussing potential Baldur’s Gate 3 DLC | VGC

They absolutely should! Make an expansion, 2 acts, increase party size to 6 for expansion campaign and DnD mode. Charge 40 bucks and call it Baldur’s Gate 3: Descent into the Underworld or something and bam, you sell hot cakes again.

CrateDane, do gaming w Dragon Age Dreadwolf keeps getting delayed internally, report claims | VGC

More like Deadwolf at this point…

TurboHarbinger, do gaming w Todd Howard wants Elder Scrolls 6 to be ‘the ultimate fantasy-world simulator’

Todd Howard wants Elder Scrolls 6 to be ‘the ultimate fantasy-world simulator’

Says the scared developer after Baldur’s gate 3 success.

Templa,

Did he make any comment regarding BG3? I haven’t seen it.

tamlyn, do gaming w Xbox boss would ‘love to find solutions’ so games aren’t lost when the 360 store closes | VGC
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

The server stay online for downloading game. I don’t really get it. If you close only the store, but keep the server for downloading online, do they safe like that so much money?

hedgehog,

If they have dedicated servers per region that handle payment processing, and they would need to be upgraded in order to be compatible with currently supported OSes, yes. Or if just maintenance costs for keeping them online are high enough.

Or if they have to pay an annual fee to continue selling (but not distributing) the games.

Or if the annual base costs for the payment provider exceed their revenue.

smeg, do gaming w Xbox boss says current-gen console prices ‘won’t come down’ like they used to | VGC

Well he’s not going to say " oh yeah, wait a year or two to buy our hardware for way less" now, is he?

cheeseburger, do gaming w Denuvo security is now on Switch, including new tech to block PC Switch emulation
@cheeseburger@lemmy.ca avatar

Is this some hardware they’re activating or software that’s going to hurt already struggling performance?

Dalinar,

Software probably, it already hurts performance on PC versions.

ipkpjersi,

It will hurt performance, yeah. DRM is evil.

Cannibal_MoshpitV3, do games w Larian working on mid-game Baldur’s Gate 3 character customisation

For role play purposes we could add scars and stuff after particularly nasty fights, or maybe face paint/tattoos if your backstory imaginations involve tribalism and body art trophies.

Maybe if Larian feels like it they can have different npcs react if your character changed since they last spoke to you, like suddenly vibrant blue hair is now red

simple, do games w A new fan-made port of Wipeout can be played in a web browser

What I’d do for a Wipeout Omega Collection PC port…

This is super cool, though

ABCDE,

How do you actually play it without smashing into the walls?

artillect,
@artillect@kbin.social avatar

You've gotta start turning kinda early to avoid running into walls, and the c and v keys (brake right and brake left) will help you on really tight corners

DarkThoughts,

Never got used to the handling of the ships in Wipeout as a kid. Enjoyed F-Zero X a lot more. Didn't really care for the combat aspects either.

I wish there was a good anti gravity racer for the PC with extensive ship customization and lots of unlockables though (as in playing to unlock, not paying). There's pretty much just small indie titles and most of them aren't even particularly good.

JohnEdwa,
@JohnEdwa@kbin.social avatar

The only two decent ones with that Wipeout feel that I know are GRiP and Redout.

DarkThoughts,

https://store.steampowered.com/app/473770/BallisticNG/
Can't get any closer to Wipeout than that.

Redout feels more like F-Zero imo. GRiP isn't anti gravity racer. Maybe more comparable to Extreme G. Reminds me of my old RC car though.

DarkThoughts,

It's not Wipeout, but BallisticNG might still be interesting for you.

wryan,

Man, I used to love futuristic racers when I was a kid. I put in some serious hours into the Xtreme G and the N64 version of Star Wars Podracer. Freaking Jetmoto... man, those were the days!

simple,

I’ve been aware of it for a while but never got around to playing it, thanks for the reminder!

AndrasKrigare, do gaming w Hideki Kamiya thinks Japan should be proud of ‘JRPG’ and wants to use ‘J-Action’

I think it’s generally agreed that pretty much all our genre naming conventions are bad and alternatives exist. youtu.be/uepAJ-rqJKA has a pretty good description of an alternative, where you describe games by their core reason for play as opposed to mechanics or camera perspective

NuPNuA,

Lots of hobbies or industries have terms that are a bit off but accepted by everyone in the know as institutional knowledge. It’s no surprise gaming is the same and it’s unlikely to change 50 odd years in.

MutatedBass,

Interesting watch, thanks for sharing.

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