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FaceDeer, do piracy w Anti-Piracy Group Takes Prominent AI Training Dataset ”Books3′ Offline
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

It may be illegal to distribute it, but it's not illegal to read it. Or train an AI on it, which is the same process.

maynarkh,

Would commercializing the trained AI count as a commercial public performance though? The legal problems with AI don’t come with the training, but when you start selling it.

alex, do piracy w Anti-Piracy Group Takes Prominent AI Training Dataset ”Books3′ Offline

Once again it’s that “worst person you know just made a great point” headline

sapient_cogbag,
@sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub avatar

I’m actually pretty pro-AI (and in particular, pro-FOSS AI), so I’m pretty unhappy about this myself ;p

If nothing else, this kind of shit will mean that only the existing “Intellectual Property” holders will have access to using AI. It would entrench things even more >.<

liquidparasyte, do piracy w IP address blocking banned in Austria after court ordered ISP to block Cloudflare IP's

“We will block Cloudflare as they protect piracy sites and must be shut down!!!” - Austrian copyright court, clueless

Murkhat, do piracy w IP address blocking banned in Austria after court ordered ISP to block Cloudflare IP's

Can someone elaborate, i dont get it

LoafyLemon,

It's in the first paragraph.

In 2022, rightsholders obtained permission in Austria to block several pirate site domains and a list of IP addresses that actually belonged to Cloudflare. ISPs had no choice but to comply with the court's instructions which took out countless Cloudflare customers in Austria. According to reviews conducted by local telecoms regulator TKK, the IP address blocking violated net neutrality regulations and will no longer be allowed.

In other words, only domain blocking will be allowed, IP blocking will not be permitted, and cloudflare IPs must be unblocked again.

redcalcium,

Cloudlare has become too big to fail. If the IP addresses belong to a smaller proxy company, no one would even bat an eye.

LoafyLemon,

I don't see the need to vilify Cloudflare. So far, they have shown nothing but respect towards net neutrality, fighting against bad internet practices (like Google), and even standing up to ISPs and governments to protect their users, whether they're pirates or not.

They have been around long enough (10+ years) to let you judge them and their services through their actions, not rumours.

redcalcium,

They are a good company, but that’s not the problem. The problem is the internet is increasingly got centralized behind them, to the point of blocking their IP addresses (or when they have an outage) broke a significant chunk of the internet. Also, once they control a significant chunk of internet, what’s stopping them from turning shitty like google (which famously started with a “don’t be evil” motto)? At that point it’s probably too late to decentralize the internet again.

LoafyLemon,

Centralization is an issue, but it's not Cloudflare to blame, it's the ISPs and governing bodies. Consider this: who's the one who initiated the initial block in the first place?

redcalcium,

You only see one side of the coin (government broke a huge swath of the internet by blocking cloudlare’s IP addresses). Now consider the other side of the same coin: when cloudlare decided it doesn’t like your IP address, suddenly you’re blocked from accessing a huge swath of the internet. This isn’t hypothetical either. It’s already happening in places with IPv4 scarcities which forced ISP to put their customers behind CGNAT. Cloudlare see this as a single IP address generating huge amount of requests, and when it blocked that IP address, suddenly a huge amount of people are blocked from accessing a huge part of the internet and instead get the dreaded captcha hell. People from US and Europe haven’t seen this issue too often because they have disproportionate amount of IPv4 allocation compared to the rest of the world, but if you want to have a taste of what it’s like running afoul with cloudlare, just use TOR or a cheap/free VPN and see how many sites suddenly become inaccessible due to cloudflare deny rule.

LoafyLemon,

I employ VPN, TOR, and additionally, I manage sites utilizing CloudFlare. I can tell you this much: There aren't many alternative services that safeguard your website and gather statistics while respecting the privacy of the end user. CloudFlare even provides onion routes for TOR users, which I've naturally activated for my website. Thus, the issue doesn't rest with CloudFlare; it's a tool. The true issue lies with the webmasters abusing their power and using overzealous rulesets.

They could easily apply the same rulesets by utilizing nginx to proxy the traffic and implementing blocks on their side, avoiding CloudFlare altogether. The only distinction would be the increased expenses and a different host, nothing more.

netchami,

There aren’t many alternative services that safeguard your website and gather statistics while respecting the privacy of the end user.

Well, there’s the issue. Cloudflare is hostile to user privacy, they are gathering as much data as Google and they try to gain a monopoly on all kinds of web hosting. They are the definition on an evil company.

LoafyLemon,

That's not true at all, though. I can see only the basic information, such as:

  • Page load time
  • Number of visitors per country
  • Browser header and user agent
  • Referral (if any)

That's all there is to it. I don't have access to IP addresses, location data, or behavioural information. I only have access to the necessary information that enables my website to function seamlessly.

netchami,

I don’t have access to IP addresses, location data, or behavioural information. I only have access to the necessary information that enables my website to function seamlessly.

You do not, but Cloudflare does because they collect everything.

lukas,
@lukas@lemmy.haigner.me avatar

Your IP address is not worth their storage costs.

netchami,

Why do ISPs, CDNs and other digital service providers store all kinds of data then? Not just IP addresses, also a whole bunch of other data and/or metadata.

worfamerryman,

I’m sorry, I’m also not getting this. My understanding is that they cannot block the sites. But it looks like are doing it. I find it a little confusing.

ShortN0te,

They are no longer allowed to block servers based on IP addresses. (1 server with 1 IP address can host countless domains)

But domain based blocking (likepiratedmovieas.com) is still allowed.

WtfEvenIsExistence, do piracy w IP address blocking banned in Austria after court ordered ISP to block Cloudflare IP's
octoblade,

I don’t think it is blocked, just down at the moment.

jayandp,

That error message says that TPB’s servers are down.

Tb0n3, do piracy w IP address blocking banned in Austria after court ordered ISP to block Cloudflare IP's

Kinda based. Fuck cloudflare basically monopolizing internet access.

LoafyLemon,

Did anyone even bother to check out the article? Cloudflare is being allowed again since the ban broke the rules of net neutrality... It's the IP blocking methods that are being outlawed.

VikingHippie, do piracy w ‘Z-Library ‘Fugitives’ Should Be Brought to Trial in The United States’.

So the fact that they, citizens of a country with no extradition treaty with the US currently in a country where extradition is famously murky at best, don’t want to be extradited to face an American kangaroo court means that they have no rights and MUST be extradited to face an American kangaroo court?

It’s like Orwell and Kafka had a baby and then someone appointed that baby emperor of the world 🤦

loudWaterEnjoyer, do piracy w Which VPN Providers Really Take Privacy Seriously in 2023? * TorrentFreak
@loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If someone starts his list with NordVPN you know its complete and utter bullshit

Ilandar,

That’s not how the annual Torrentfreak VPN questionnaire works.

loudWaterEnjoyer,
@loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It doesn’t work good if they act like all those providers are a considerable choice

Ilandar,

They don’t. I suspect you haven’t actually read one of these articles in detail.because it is in no way a recommendation from TorrentFreak. It literally opens with this:

The VPN review business is also flourishing as well. Just do a random search for “best VPN service” or “VPN review” and you’ll see dozens of sites filled with recommendations and preferred picks. Some VPN companies, such as Kape, even own review sites.

At TF we don’t want to make any recommendations. When it comes to privacy and anonymity, an outsider can’t offer any guarantees. Vulnerabilities are always lurking around the corner and even with the most secure VPN, you still have to trust the VPN company with your data.

Instead, we aim to provide an unranked overview of VPN providers, asking them questions we believe are important. Many of these questions relate to privacy and security, and the various companies answer them in their own words.

We hope that this helps users to make an informed choice. However, we stress that users themselves should always make sure that their VPN setup is secure, working correctly, and not leaking. Also, we advise people to properly research the company behind the VPN service.

NordVPN appears first because it is a sponsor, as is clearly stated:

*Note: Private Internet access, ExpressVPN and NordVPN are TorrentFreak sponsors. We reserve the first three spots for them as a courtesy. This article also includes a few affiliate links which help us pay the bills. We never sell positions in our review article or charge providers for a listing.

The same questions are put to every VPN provider on the list. It is unranked - whether they first or last is completely irrelevant.

PeachMan, do piracy w Which VPN Providers Really Take Privacy Seriously in 2023? * TorrentFreak
@PeachMan@lemmy.one avatar

Something that people need to realize: If you want a VPN for PRIVACY, Mullvad (edit: also maybe IVPN) is the only good option on this list. They make it very easy for you to maintain complete anonymity, they don’t even WANT your email address, you can use crypto, or you can literally mail them an envelope of cash with a note inside containing your unique ID and they’ll load up your account with that value. It’s ridiculous how seriously they take this stuff. And if you’re really concerned about privacy, you should also be taking extra steps like using a hardened OS and browser, and using disposable virtual machines. But I suspect that most of us here aren’t that concerned with actual privacy.

If you want a VPN for PIRACY, any of these options are probably fine as long as they don’t block or slow torrent traffic. Just use the fastest one here that you can afford. The only thing you’re really doing in this case is blocking your torrent traffic from your ISP. Remember, if you give them a credit card and your email address, then that’s not private! It’s just for piracy. It’s important to look at your priorities and pick a VPN accordingly.

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