If Apple really said their decision was partly based on Epic calling them out on their DMA plans then it seems it should be a pretty easy win in court. Apple would literally be meaning “if you say bad things about us we’ll cancel your account.” I know private companies aren’t bound by the first amendment but surely that can’t be legal.
“More recently, you have described our DMA compliance as ‘hot garbage,’ a ‘horror show,’ and a ‘devious new instance of Malicious Compliance.’ And you have complained about what you called ‘Junk Fees’ and ‘Apple taxes.”
I’m sorry, but this exchange is just plain hilarious to me. 🤣 It reads like a recording between a couple going through an acrimonious divorce.
I think this is good though. Another data point of Apple not allowing true competition on their platform. Oh, you want your own app store? BAM! You’re banned. Especially now that it seemed Epic was gonna comply with this last set of ridiculous rules.
We might get a proper way to sideload if they keep this up. We’ll see…
The EU has already told Apple they have to allow side loading of apps. Probably won’t help anyone in the United States but maybe you can get California on it, as they seem to like copying EU law.
Idk, man. Epic very well could have come up with an app so bad that it became a serious vulnerability for the Apple App Store. This could be about the money. It could be about some Apple Engineers making a couple of airbooks live up to their names, trying to plug all the wholes the shitty Epic DRM was creating. Could be both.
Epic’s DRM patches routinely break games and open up security vulnerabilities. This isn’t even something new, its been a problem with the company for decades.
While I definitely don’t know everything about Epic Games, but my (quick) googling suggests that they do almost no DRM (or just piggy-back on steam, which is minimal DRM). The individual developers are responsible for DRM. Is this not true?
In general, iI feel it is quite a moot point regarding iOS , where Epic wouldnt need to do any DRM, because iOS is locked down to hell…
Just because it is a competitor, it doesnt mean it does DRM. Foremost, it is a service to deliver games to you at a price (and give you a legal proof of ownership).
I haven’t used EGS in 5 or 6 years, but the whole reason I refuse to use them (aside from the timed exclusive bullshit) was no offline mode when I wanted to play subnautica. I remember being so mad that I couldn’t play my game when I lost Internet that once it was back I bought it on steam and uninstalled EGS entirely.
So not sure how much of their library is actually drm free if you can’t play a game without being able to contact their servers. But who knows, maybe EGS finally got around to adding basic features after all this time.
They can DRM, but they won’t use the DRM that’s part of the competitor’s platform, specially when Epic also had their own commercial DRM. Also they develop unreal engine. All of this are easy to check facts that show how little you know about what you’re talking about.
It’s ok not knowing, so why to make so much effort to pretend you know what you’re talking about and arguing with me up facts?
I love how you’re so confident about this despite clearly knowing nothing about programming.
It is not possible for an app to be a threat to the entire app store because all of the code is sandboxed. Please either read up on app development or shut up
Also the app doesn’t run on the app store, so it cannot affect it. The store serves the app as a package that is then downloaded and executed on the user device
Anything is possible when you’re not constrained by what is actually something that can really happen. For example, epic could even blow up some of Apple’s headquarter campuses by uploading a bomb to the iOS app store because of all the ‘wholes’ in the epic drm.
Really stupid that a company can be forced to do business with someone they don't want to do business with. Epic is a stain on gaming and anything else they tried to claw their way into, and would rather be slimy anti competitive trogladites led by their manchild Tim Sweeney trying to steal peices of the pie in a market rather than actually provide honest to goodness products and services that people want to use.
EGS is 6 years in and is still a complete failure on any competition metrics, and yet they want to employ the same anti competititve practices on iOS? Good luck I say, computer literate people don't even use EGS, imagine how many people will forego sideloading on iOS while they have to pay to maintain their new app store.
Didn't they already offer a "Epic Games Store" on Android since that's open and allows sideloading already? And Android is an OS more prone to sideloading and that store still failed miserably.
I find it pretty awesome that instead of doing Remote Code Execution to fuck up someone’s life, they instead exploited it in live broadcast which shows the world how terrible these rootkits that go by the name of “anti cheat” are.
Definitely a clever way to get a lot of publicity for a seemingly fairly major anticheat oversight. I believe that the intent wasn’t malicious, they could have done a lot more harm if they wanted to.
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