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xkforce, do gaming w I can't live like this

To the people who prefer the y axis be inverted I have one question: who hurt you?

SzethFriendOfNimi,

Grew up dreaming of being a pilot. Pull back to yaw up.

First games that were flight sims did so. So now it’s just what I’m used to.

hemmes,
@hemmes@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah it was always a reference to flight controls. But in the 80s and 90s, even 1st persons would take that approach.

Omgarm,

At some point it was inverted by default.

brap,

The original Rainbow Six had it like that by default and now 25 years later it’s here to stay.

mundane,

Think of the stock on the controller as a head with your hand on top. If you pull the hand back, in what direction does the eyes move?

ivanafterall,

Or instead of complex mental gymnastics, just up = up, down = down.

TheBananaKing,

You’re moving the viewport, not the crosshair.

poweruser, (edited )

There is no up. There is left, right, forward, and back.

Pushing your head forward points it at the floor. Pulling it back makes you look up

Fal,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

Except you’re wrong. The controller is on the BACK of the head, you know, where you’re looking. So both x and y should be inverted. Anything else makes 0 sense

umbraroze,
@umbraroze@kbin.social avatar

Well the analogy doesn't perfectly work with pad controllers.

It does work with flight sticks. Vertical controls pitch (up and down), horizontal controls roll (tilt left and right). You've got pedals/stick twist for yaw (turn to right or left) or the hat/thumb stick for view angle change.

Fal,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

No I think it does work perfectly with controllers. It’s why Mario 64 had lakitu as a metaphor and had the correct, inverted x and y controls.

Maestro,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

Eh, that would also mean that X is inverted as well. I can't play inverted X.

echo64,

Elder millennials and cooler gen x’s grew up on Goldeneye 64, y axis inverted

magic_lobster_party,

I got familiar with it from TimeSplitters 2, but that’s basically same devs.

Edit: not sure how the control schemes of the FPS sections in Banjo Tooie were, but I could have acquainted myself with it back then. I guess it’s similar due to being a Rare game.

EmergMemeHologram,

That game is a top 10 all time fun game.

It’s awesome!

money_loo,

I’m in this comment and I don’t know if I like it.

But holy shit I guess you nailed the source of my inverted controller usage because I played the crap out of that with my little brother.

snuff,

Don’t forget pilot wings!

MajorHavoc,

It was Starfox.

cynar,

I know someone who had both X and Y inverted, on his computer mouse.

umbraroze,
@umbraroze@kbin.social avatar

Played a bunch of flight simulators and similar games back in the day. If it's universally considered the best way to steer a goddamn aircraft safely and accurately, who am I to argue.

Spaghetti_Hitchens,

First 3D (or pseudo-3d) games I played were flying games. So stick back to look up/climb became ingrained in my motor skills.

Throw in some Golden Eye and Time Splitters and there is no going back.

lobut,

I used to hate inverted as a kid, but a few games had them by default and my brain switched and could never go back. I’m playing Outer Wilds now and I had to immediately switch it.

pHr34kY,

Duke3D. That’s where it started.

Starglasses,

No one. Do you slap left-handed people? :)

Harvey656,

Wait. Are you not supposed to?

gwildors_gill_slits,

Wing Commander, Commanche, MS Flight Simulator, and various other games

activ8r, do gaming w A message from your backlog

No

Maggoty, do gaming w A message from your backlog

No! you’re not my mommy!

MeanEYE, do gaming w A message from your backlog
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Hey, here’s a radical thought… don’t force yourself to finish something just because you paid for it. A lot of games accumulated were prior to generous refund policy and back in the days of Bundles and stuff. Why would you force yourself to play something you don’t like.

Patches, (edited )

Back in the days of bundles.

Looks at the 5 TRPG I just got yesterday for $15. So I could get 1 game I wanted that is always $20.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. People wonder why so many are praising Gaben, but decision to refund any game for any reason within 2h of play or 2 weeks of ownership is an awesome one. So many times game looks entertaining only to realize it’s bad.

Patches, (edited )

You don’t have to look very far back to see the positives

polygon.com/…/the-day-before-fntastic-twitter-ste…

Most people got refunds on the policy alone. The rest are getting them outside of policy by directly talking to Steam.

Do you think the same would happen in Epic?

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

No way. Epic doesn’t give a shit, although they do have a refund policy of sorts, it’s not as lax as Steam’s.

therealjcdenton, do gaming w A message from your backlog
Meuzzin, do gaming w A message from your backlog

Damn you Humble Bundle!

son_named_bort, do gaming w A message from your backlog

You’re not the boss of me now.

mctoasterson, do gaming w A message from your backlog

Well shit, if Asuka says so…

samus12345, do gaming w A message from your backlog
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar
AceFuzzLord, do gaming w A message from your backlog

I refuse. If I lose interest in a game, I ain’t touching it until I’m ready. It’s one of the big reasons I quit FNV months ago in the middle of what will be my first ever completion of the game.

RIP_Cheems, do gaming w A message from your backlog
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

NO

onlinepersona, do gaming w A message from your backlog

I have a moratorium on buying games until more than 50% of the games in my library have been played at least once.

pelotron, do gaming w A message from your backlog
@pelotron@midwest.social avatar

I’M TELLING YOU I CAN’T

Adalast, do gaming w A message from your backlog

But… But… I have Factorio and Rimworld…

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

You better beat them.

Adalast,

😭😭😭😭😭

Lol.

Honytawk, do gaming w A message from your backlog

Why would I continue a game I have no interest in?

I play games for fun, not because I want to finish them.

If a game stops being fun, I go on to the next.

And you can’t stop me.

darkstar,

This is the correct mentality. Game fun? Play. Game not fun? Don’t play.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Ok but what about all the games you bought but haven’t even installed yet?

Lemminary,

Hey listen here you little shit!

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