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echo64, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

They might have a case if yuzu is actually decrypting switch software. That would be stupid of the developers, though. I would assume that they require you to provide decrypted games.

That’s basically the only leg nintendo has to stand on here, but nintendo can out lawyer you into the poor house regardless.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

AFAIK rooted Switch consoles are used to decrypt the games and Yuzu just tries to execute whatever nonencrypted Switch binary. Unless Nintendo can prove that either the Yuzu developers themselves are behind ripping commercial Switch games or directly colluded with the rippers, they’d have a hard time to actually win. That said, regular people with normal income levels will probably just sign everything because a prolonged lawsuit is about just bankrupting them, not being ruled the win by the judge.

echo64,

From their own guide

yuzu starts with the error “Missing Derivation Components”

yuzu requires console keys to play your games. Please follow our Quickstart Guide to dump these keys and system files from your Nintendo Switch.

Their guide also talks about dumping games from your console so I’m not sure how far it goes, but if they want console keys they are likely decrypting something

dustyData,

Yuzu doesn’t do any encryption breaking. The user is meant to use their Switch to dump their keys, which are legally owned by the user. Then it uses those legal keys to decrypt the ROMs by the exact normal method that the Switch itself uses. They were going based on precedent legal rulings about console emulation. Copying the decryption keys and making copies of the software for archival purposes have both been previously ruled to be perfectly legal for the enduser and don’t constitute piracy. This suit will challenge that notion.

echo64,

Then it uses those legal keys to decrypt the ROMs by the exact normal method that the Switch itself uses

this is the part where they circumvent the copyright protection, even if you do it “the same way” it’s still not authorized, the DMCA is fairly broad about this stuff, one of the reasons it’s so bad

samus12345, (edited ) do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been holding off on jailbreaking my launch Switch until the next one is out, but I think the time has come.

EDIT: Aaand done. Biggest surprise so far is that there’s a homebrew Pizza Tower port for it! This game really belongs on consoles.

improbablypoopingrn,

RCM loader/jig is like $8

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve had one for years, waiting for when Nintendo dropped support. I’m not gonna give them any more money as far as the Switch is concerned, so no reason not to go for it now. A project for this weekend, maybe.

LodeMike, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

Looks like they’re about to find out.

adaveinthelife, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

Oh cool I didn’t know that existed, thanks Nintendo!

polysics, (edited ) do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

Edit: I am dumb, of course the source code is out there. I have visited this repository a thousand times but my monkey brain can’t remember what I ate for breakfast.

github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu

Everyone download the hell out of it and never let this die.

~ ~ ~

If it isn’t already open source, Yuzu team needs to get that shiz open source post-haste. Let’s get that code absolutely everywhere.

When that popular manga app Tachiyomi got legal bonked, the bajillion forks of it kept some semblance of the original going.

I know there’s money to be made and something like an emulator is considerably more complex than a book reading app/scraper, but it would at least give the project a chance of not dying forever.

Dudewitbow,

there are already 3rd party repositories that come from yuzu. e.g Yuzu Pineapple is a repository that autocompiles the source code that yuzu puts out so that you dont have to sub to get early access builds prebuilt.

lawrence, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
ParkedInReverse, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

nintendo-insider.com link for an article that works.

PeterPoopshit, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

Yet another reason I never buy anything from Nintendo. Fuck those fucks. On average only like 2 Nintendo games per console generation are ever any good anyway. They should be held responsible for all the e-waste they generate.

Ashtear, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

The legality of the emulation itself has long been established, but I’ve been concerned for a while that illegal DRM circumvention of the games themselves has been a viable legal avenue. Under the DMCA, even the process to dump your own legally-licensed games has arguably been in a legal grey area for a while now, with how they are locked down. If any method to playing the games become illegal, any unauthorized emulation of games becomes de facto illegal.

I’d cite legal precedent here, but there’s been a substantial right-wing, pro-corporate shift in American courts over time. Who knows how this will go.

AceFuzzLord, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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  • SoleInvictus,
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    No judgment either way, just info:

    This spells “xiao riben” in Chinese. To anyone not familiar, this is derogatory Chinese slang for Japanese people, basically meaning “little Japanese person”. English speakers would use the term midget or runt. It hails back to WWII, when it was commonly believed that the Japanese were smaller than the Chinese.

    KRAW,
    @KRAW@linux.community avatar

    Cool, so you’ve outed yourself as someone not 100% against racial slurs. If Nintendo was a black-owned company, would you have done the same?

    steeznson, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

    Maybe they should have named it Ryujinx or something else that sounds less phonetically like “you sue”

    MajorHavoc, do games w Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

    Shit like this is why I moved away from Nintendo for my gaming platform of choice.

    But take heart, Nintendo, I’ll try to make time to enjoy Nintendo first party games later on a pre-loaded cheap Chinese knock-off device.

    Except, I definitely won’t because Nintendo will definitely succeed in stuffing the genie back into the bottle, and preventing their games from being enjoyed on un-approved platforms in un-approved ways. /s

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