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restingboredface, do gaming w Damnatory Arbitration

WHEN LAWYERS WRITE IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS IT MEANS WHATEVER THEY ARE SAYING IS SUPER DUPER LEGAL AND NO ONE CAN EVER QUESTION IT.

Ioughttamow, do games w Damnatory Arbitration

Can you load up a previous version on steam?

ulterno,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

You can just decline and play without some multiplayer features.

Though, in my case, it crashed on game start, probably due to unrelated reasons (I’m on linux).

But I think loading a previous version is also an option (as I read somewhere). Never tried though.

Ioughttamow,

Good to hear, I’ve been meaning to spool up he game again at some point

Womble, do games w Damnatory Arbitration

Is this actually meaningful in any way or is it just the corporate equivalent of positive manifestation? Surely no court would take seriously an after the fact imposition of you waiving your rights by default unless you send a physical letter to them informing them you disagree with losing your right to sue (for no gain on your part).

Maalus,

Why not? Arbitration clauses work in the US. The funnier things that happen is when something is so bad, thousands of people go in for arbitration and the company cannot afford that. Then it backfires hard on them since you need to get every person to arbitrate and there is tens of thousands of them.

Womble,

The whole forced arbitration is bad enough, but retroactively enforcing it on something you already own while deliberately making it difficult to opt out just seems like its begging to fall foul of anti-consumer rules. The whole “this applies to the extent that its not really fucking illegal” clause just makes it seem like an intimidation tactic rather than actually something they think they have any chance of enforcing if it came to it.

Carrolade,

Anti-consumer rules…? What are those? Sounds like communist propaganda to me. All hail the corporate overlords job creators!

ulterno,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I’m guessing you haven’t heard of the Roku television debacle.

Aurenkin, do gaming w Damnatory Arbitration

It’s absurd that this is legal (assuming it is). How can it be just to have customers waive their right to access the justice system?

ulterno,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

It’s also illegal (in writing) to have a random sticker on a screw of an appliance, stating “Warranty void if removed”.
Doesn’t stop anyone from using it to escape warrantying user stuff, simply because it is not enforced well enough.

arudesalad, do games w Damnatory Arbitration

Take Two are an evil company

haui_lemmy, do gaming w Damnatory Arbitration

This is a rough post because neither did you provide alt text for these non mobile friendly pictures nor did you put any emphasis or mention what you actually are trying to say or ask.

From what I have gathered after readin through it, US citizens are being asked to waive their rights to class actions or any form of jury trial for any reason whatsoever.

This absolutely is reason to boycott them and make a giant fuss about it but I would ask that you or someone makes this a lot easier to grasp in like 15 seconds so peeps dont just scroll over it.

Good luck and have a nice day.

Lojcs,

Not just us, everywhere except the few places they listed

haui_lemmy,

You mean the few places in the whole of europe? :)

Lojcs,

I guess it’s not that few but still not much compared to the entire world

ulterno,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Thanks for the constructive criticism.

alt text for these non mobile friendly pictures

Yeah, I miserably failed at that part. Tried to add the alt text, but looks like I did it the wrong way so it didn’t work.

mention what you actually are trying to say or ask

Just wanting to let people know about another instance of Mandatory Arbitration. After hitting Post, I did realise that I should have included the game’s name, which I missed because I first posted this to an XCOM2 sub.

haui_lemmy,

Got it. Thanks for adding the info.

ulterno,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

US citizens are being asked to waive their rights to class actions or any form

You don’t need to be in the US for that.
I am not.

I fail to understand why they feel the need to do this, considering people are not just suing these companies willy-nilly.

But if you look closely, they don’t mention anywhere that this Mandate is only with regards to this specific product (XCOM2 in this case), which makes me think, all of these companies are planning to do some problematic thing separately and then use this to escape the consequences.

haui_lemmy,

You very much need to be in the US for this (or another capitalist hellscape). Reason being that this is illegal in europe.

They need to do this. They choose to so they cant be sued for using dark patterns most likely.

These companies need to be shut down. They’re pure evil at this point.

fluckx, do games w Damnatory Arbitration

What game is this even from.?

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Guessing XCOM 2, judging by the font.

ulterno,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

XCOM2: War of The Chosen.

Forgot to add the name in the title since I first posted in the XCOM2 sub. 😜

FrostyPolicy, do games w Damnatory Arbitration

It’s good to live in the EU where such terms don’t apply.

impure9435,

Yeah because we have an actual working legal system

ulterno, (edited )
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I don’t get this part.
How come they explicitly state the European Economic Area, while at the same time, it doesn’t apply there?

Or do the European Economic Area and EU refer to different things?


Or is it that they thought the user will not care to check in case they have a problem big enough to seek legal aid?

smeg,

EEA and EU are related but not the same

_skj,

The EEA shows up in the list of places it does not apply. They worded it strangely, first calling out the US as a place where it does apply. Then they change it up and say it also applies to anywhere not on this specific list of places

ulterno,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Ah you’re right. Rereading it fixed the doubt. Guess I skipped a few words the first time.
Mental note to not skip words in a legal document. Or any written document.

FrostyPolicy,

Currently EEA consists of the EU states + some other European countries.

ulterno, do gaming w Damnatory Arbitration
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Same post on reddit

But since you are here, prefer answering here.

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