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xep, do games w Smurfing is Not Welcome in Dota

This seems like a reasonable approach but the smurfs have already ruined all the games prior to being banned. I wonder how difficult it is to prevent smurfing altogether? Doesn't seem like it'd be easy at all.

Clbull,

For Korea and China, probably quite easy.

Both regions require you to register for the game using a residential ID due to strict internet laws in those regions. China’s are so notoriously strict that the kind of toxic degeneracy you’d see on the European or North American servers would probably nuke your social credit score or land you in prison if you tried to pull it there.

As for the West, the only companies from my experience that genuinely ask for personal details beyond a username, email address and password are those that host shoddy Korean MMO’s and have notoriously bad internet security. Valve have tried to address smurfing in the past by requiring accounts to register phone numbers before they can play Ranked, but this can easily be bypassed with cheap burner phones and other services.

slumberlust,

China’s are so notoriously strict that the kind of toxic degeneracy you’d see on the European or North American servers would probably nuke your social credit score or land you in prison if you tried to pull it there.

Got any resources to back this up? I have a hard time imagining a culture where cheating is the norm alongside one that ruins your life if caught cheating. One of these things can’t be true.

Clbull,

Doesn’t China literally have a social credit score system?

WorldieBoi,

maybe ban the main account for a period? like first offense, 1 month

MachineFab812, (edited ) do games w Smurfing is Not Welcome in Dota, Valve bans 90k smurf accounts

… or, you know, you could just match them with eachother and some bots, so they don’t realize anyone is onto them, don’t ruin the experience for others, and still get to play what they’ve paid for(sorry if DoTA2 is f2p … but even there, the best players will usually have spent some money).

Robot Warfare on mobile seems to do something like this(you’ll find references to “AI Hell”/“bot hell” on reddit). Part of what players don’t like about it is that you’ll have maybe one, usually none, lower-ranked human player besides yourself on your team, and the opposing team is usually all bots or all noobs, so you either shoot fish in a barrel or invent challenges/handicaps for yourself.

When I would let my daughter play on my account while I built up hers so she would have a good “mech” or three(she still doesn’t carry matches or get more than a few kills if any, but surviving to the end of a match with her dad on her team is a big deal for a 7yo), I would find my account stuck like so for a good while. Honestly prefer it to playing with the super-competitive “elite”, who all use the same OP bot and play he same ways as eachother(I legit prefer the smaller/weaker/faster mechs … ones where I often would be the first to run out of lives in a higher-teir game).

EDIT: removed the s at the end of bot. There’s one bot specifically that the Pay2Win wannabe’s spam.

MarcomachtKuchen, do games w Dota 2: Update 7.36 and Crownfall Act II

These last updates are mad and I’m all here for it

rich, do games w Smurfing is Not Welcome in Dota

Look, I’m all about fairness…but why prevent people from colouring themselves blue and adding a white flappy hat?

_spiffy, do games w Dota 2 - The Summer Client Update
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Lots of great changes. I don’t play much Dota anymore but I’m glad it still gets big updates like this

Oreos, do games w Smurfing is Not Welcome in Dota

Meanwhile, smurfs in CSGO/CS2

InEnduringGrowStrong, do games w Smurfing is Not Welcome in Dota, Valve bans 90k smurf accounts
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Smurfing was pretty bananas in Rocket League too.
Mixed that with people convinced they should be ranked much higher and the only thing holding them back was their teammates and yes that could be pretty toxic too.
I once unknowingly let my nephew play ranked on my account and I had to rank back up from gold, which is the closest I’ve come to smurfing.
It was only a few games until the mmr leveled out, but the gold games were honestly harder than plat or diamond because of how many people don’t even have the self-awareness to know they’re messing up.
I mean, I’m messing up all the time too, I just don’t need to blame my teammates.

That said, I haven’t played much since Epic got their hands on it.

Kolanaki, do games w Smurfing is Not Welcome in Dota
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By what metrics do they use to even tell a player is a smurf to be able to take action against them?

sonovebitch,

On top of my head (uneducated guess) :

  • multiple accounts regularly logging in through a single IP
  • day/time login patterns
  • same champion pools
  • consistently stomps games
  • frequent higher than average KDA
  • frequent higher than average CS/min
  • higher than rank level winrate
  • higher than rank level MMR

These items taken individually don’t tell much. But when cross-referenced with other data, I’m pretty sure it becomes clear really fast when someone is smurfing.

PapstJL4U,
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don’t forget fun stuff like:

mouse and keyboard config

audio and visual config

and the ability of the creating and looking into a log file in the gamr folder

agedbeef, do games w Dota 2 - The Summer Client Update

The real time chat abuse reporting is pretty interesting. Hopefully it’s tuned well and you can’t get griefed by it.

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