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AceFuzzLord, do gaming w Dpad vs analog stick

Analog stick. Most of the time I end up finding that the dpad on my 360 controller doesn’t feel as good to me compared to as an analog stick. That, and the majority of games I used to play growing up used analog stick for movement, so it’s engrained in me.

EmpiricalFlock,
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Part of the issue there is actually the 360 controller, from my experience. It has one of the worst D-pads ever made. That said, platformers and fighting games are typically the only ones I use a D-pad on anyway, so if you don’t play those you’d likely never use it.

Kolanaki, do gaming w Dpad vs analog stick
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Dpad for precise timing (like movement). Analogue for precise looking (like aiming).

If I could use the dpad to move in a souls game (especially the ones with movement based combos) I would. But I’d still want the analogue stick for the camera.

monoboy, do gaming w Dpad vs analog stick

Depends on the game

A good example is the Ori games compared to Hollow Knight. Ori moves at a different speed depending how much you push the thumb stick so it feels more precise to use them. In Hollow Knight you move the same speed with the thumb stick no matter how little it is pressed so the d-pad feels better.

goatbeard, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

Super Auto Pets

Empricorn, do gaming w Dpad vs analog stick

It’s all about timing, just like face buttons. Platforming or fighting games, you gotta have that instant response. Aiming or acceleration needs the precision of analog. So, “depends on the game” is my hot take…

Zozano,
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I realised all these years later that so many games from my childhood had the issue of “floaty characters”.

Mario 64 felt so good because you could run at full speed, snap the alalog stick back and jump, and Mario would pivot on a bees dick and launch himself at your face.

Empricorn, (edited )

You are a poet. But seriously, you’re so right. I don’t even like the floaty fighters in Smash Bros!

saigot, do gaming w Dpad vs analog stick

I prefer Dpad for platforming and top down as being able to move precisely diagonal is more important than speed control, plus the analogue stick wears out quicker and dpad allows switching directions faster. Analogue for driving and therpy gamess

DmMacniel, do gaming w Dpad vs analog stick

Depends on the game really. If there is a need for fine precision be it movement, pointing or aiming an analog Stick can’t be beat (the latter even enhanced by gyro) if its a 2D game its gotta be a dpad.

Empricorn, (edited )

I misread that as “enhanced by Spyro”. And yeah, most things are…

DmMacniel,

True everything would be better with that little dragon.

terzalo, (edited ) do gaming w Anybody know of games similar to Dito Seregin's 'Escape Pod'?

Hi, I’m Dito, I made the game!

Check out ΔV: Rings of Saturn! It’s a slower-paced simulation game, and it goes all the way to explore the idea of 2D spaceships with Newtonian physics in an asteroid field (or rather a ring system).

I also recommend Heat Signature, it’s one of my favorite games! It’s only partially about flying spaceships, but I was directly inspired by the pod controls in it.

Edit: I’ll also add Flywrench to this, it’s a tough and satisfying action game about maneuvering through multi-colored obstacles that you can phase through by switching your ship’s polarity in time.

boomer, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

“Nowadays” ? They’re just getting good! Did you mean to say, “why are mobile games that suck, so popular” ? It’s because they’re accessible and usually F2P .

sleepybisexual,

Take angry birds for an example,

It used to be a good game, you had your level, Maine an optional micro transaction.

Now the modern angry birds is an ad riddled mess

boomer,

Oh yeah. I get it. I guess that’s why I stopped playing those long ago 🙂

I’m a huge mobile gamer though. It’s amazing what we can play on our phones with an xbox controller. It’s better than the pc experience for me because I can map the controller how I want to and am not stuck with the defaults.

Tons of amazing games coming this year. ZZZ wuthering waves Azur Promelia Etc.

yuri,

You can remap controllers on pc though, like at a system level if you use steam. I remember having to go through a whole rigamarole to customize controls for a mobile game that didn’t support controller, I had to use a weird third party tool that interpreted the controller input as virtual screen touches. It almost kinda worked lmao

boomer,

I remember way back trying to play genshin on my pc and it wouldnt let me map the right button trigger to attack , like i like it and I was like, i’m just going back to mobile.

yuri,

I forget that games like genshin exist lol

Blubber28, do games w Sprocket: Tank Design is such a fun game!

While it does indeed kind of smell like an ad, keep in mind this is not some triple-A bullshit. It’s made by a single dev and has a heavily involved community on reddit and discord where competitions are hosted and suggestions are made. Regardless of tankies reputation, that kind of behaviour is not tolerated in either of those communities. I’ve been playing it on and off and have over 500 hours into it by now. It is a very niche game, but for those that like tanks and military games in general, it is a real gem.

SupraMario,

Does it have MP? Or is it SP vs bots?

Blubber28,

It is currently singleplayer vs bots and the scenarios are admittedly limited. However, again, single dev (at the moment). Multiplayer is on the roadmap far in the future and will likely not really be pvp as that introduces challenges for balancing.

For now though, the designer is very free in what it lets you do for the most part and has a lot of options.

If you’re on the fence, I would recommend looking up some videos on youtube that showcase the game’s capabilities. Make sure to pick a decently recent one (ergo past half year or so).

SupraMario,

If the dev got this working with MP, hell even just coop vs like a horde of tanks, with your friends, it would be awesome. Right now it looks like a lot of fun but won’t last to long for me. I’ll have to keep an eye on it.

redcalcium,

Hmm, what do you mean when a tank game has a tankies reputation?

jarfil, do gaming w Interactive Loading Screens - High Hell

The best loading screen is: none.

Load levels in chunks, preload the first chunk of the next level before the player reaches the end of the previous one, and either have a smooth transition, or at most put a skippable cutscene.

Loading screens are for poorly developed games.

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?

This is a really hard question for me to answer. So I’m going to go with a bit of a catch-all.

I really like the GBA. But the DS can play DS and GBA titles. But the 3DS is great too and can play all 3 and then some.

I guess the 3DS. There’s just so much that can be packed into it. I haven’t played mine in a while. I wish it was easier to install a capture card in them. There was something special about the games from the GBA to 3DS. The limitations of the hardware had developers experimenting, and we ended up with so many interesting titles. If you factor in the couple n64 games ported over to the 3DS, it’s just so much nostalgia in one handheld.

If I had to go with a runner-up, I think it would be my series X. Being able to play so many backward compatible games is also super nice.

If I truly had to pick single consoles only, with only the games designed for that specific console. I would probably go with the 3ds and the xbox 360. The 3DO or Dreamcast would come after as they had so many unique titles.

I never got to play the ps1, ps2, or psp and vita. So I’ve been curious what I’ve been missing out on over the years.

sleepybisexual,

You could always emualtr them. Psp is a good system

Megaman_EXE,

Playstation and psp emulation is not something I’ve looked into much. I’ll have to do some digging!

sleepybisexual,

Ppsspp is good,

Vimm.net has most of the ROMs. For PSP tekken dr is a very good game. Especially with resolution upscale

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

I find I very rarely use it as a handheld. I find it kind of heavy and awkward to hold after longer periods of time. I kinda wish Nintendo made another 3ds, lol. I’m extremely curious about what they’re going to do for the switch successor

grrgyle,

I’d go even farther back - make another GBA

sleepybisexual,

I want both a new GBA and a new 3ds.

grrgyle,

I think maybe I just want a GBA

Which is probably currently available if I look around

sleepybisexual,

I want a GBA, but the money to get one is not worth it.

A GBA is not worth 100 euros to me.

grrgyle,

That’s true, especially since I don’t have any of the old physical games.

I might get one of those “retro handhelds” (rg351p, PowKiddy, etc) one day. Those at least seem much more reasonable, and probably sport more open architecture

sleepybisexual,

I’m big into those, you want some recommendations?

grrgyle,

Hell yes!! I would love that. I’m definitely looking for something lofi - like even playing SNES games would probably be overkill. Bonus points if it can play contemporary retro games, like for PICO-8

sleepybisexual,

OK, so yih looking for something that can do SNES well, that would be low power, unless you wanna have newer systems,

So I need answers for these 4 questions

What shape you want?

What budget?

How much power do you want!

What os do you want?

For SNES the cheaper end will work

grrgyle,
  1. Smaller the better, not wide like a Switch or Stream Deck.
  2. Under 200 CAD, but flexible for the right device
  3. Limited 3D but no more. Like FX chip level
  4. Linux? Hopefully I understood the question

Thanks for taking this time!

sleepybisexual,

OK, I have some ideas.

For all of SNES and some other stuff as a bonus the ambernic rg35xxh seems like it’d be a good fit. Tho it is horizontal. About 80-90 USD I think

The rg35xx is similar but vertical with no sticks

For something that’s like 40 USD ish there’s the powkiddy v90.

Tho for 200 cad that’s like mid range tier. But most powerful ones are landscape.

A good yt channel is retro game corps.

My personal machine is the retroid pocket 4 pro. An android handheld that is very powerful, can emulate up to some switch

grrgyle,

Oh the different retroid pockets look really cool. Thanks, you’ve given me a lot to dig in to!

sleepybisexual,

Didn’t think you’d like a retroid cos they run android but they are extremely good.

The 4 pro is good, it runs a lot well, up to 2d switch games.

I heard horror stories about the 3 and flip tho.

Also powkiddy stuff is bad at mid range, only consider them for very cheap,

Megaman_EXE,

That would be really interesting. Heck I would even just take people making more games with the gba’s restrictions. I’ve always thought it’s super interesting. As developers get used to working with a console or system, we end up rolling into the next generation. So they don’t really get to flex their skill as much as I think they probably could.

I sometimes wonder what we would see if older consoles had another 7 years of life added to them. I try not to think about it too hard or I get kinda sad about the games we’ll never see lol

strongarm, do gaming w Interactive Loading Screens - High Hell

There was an old Spectrum Game that actually loaded up Pacman first before the main game.

Kissaki,

What’s a Spectrum game? Is that a game series?

Blackmist,

The ZX Spectrum was a home computer popular in the UK back in the 1980s.

Games loaded from audio tapes, and would frequently take 5-10 minutes to get into a state where you could actually play them.

Now get off my lawn!

Blackmist,

One of them had Space Invaders. I can’t remember for the life of me which one. It was apparently used on the C64 quite a lot, under the name Invade-a-Load.

strongarm,

Yeah I can’t remember my game either, it might have been something like Joe Blade 3?

boomer, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

What you call rigamarole is the standard way to map button presses to tge screen. It only looks like rigamarole to a PC user who is coming to gripa with how a controller interfaces with a screen. A third party mapping utility is STANDARD use case because you’re mapping button presses to the screen. That’s litterally how it works and it works well. When we mobile game players play games THIS is how we play and this IS THE reason why what you call “mobile games” TsumTsum candy crush etc are losing popularity because people be playing more intense games on mobile these days. Because of controller support.

sleepybisexual,

If you game on controller on android I think you’d love an android gaming handheld. Tho I don’t get the whole clip on controller thing

boomer,

That’s what we do. Xbox controller comes with a clip on. This is mobile gaming. Been this way for about 5 years now. Popularized by pubg at first but then more of this controller style games came along and the button mapper apps got a lot better. Right now the best are Octopus and Mantis. I prefer mantis.

sleepybisexual,

For android gaming (emulation) j have a handheld I use.

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