Yeah, that’s what I’m hoping for. I don’t need gameplay or anything, I just want to know more-or-less what the status is. As in, are we likely to see a release in the next couple years? Or is this a 5-years out situation?
Right. Yet there’s zero timeline for release, and I’d like a timeline for release. You can’t just tease something and have pretty much no updates for 7 years…
Honestly, I wouldn’t be mad if ES VI was just Morrowind reworked into the modern era. It’s a great game, and it could use a few more pixels and updates to the combat and leveling systems.
But yeah, an ES VI update w/ some kind of target release date would absolutely be welcome (even if it’s just a year).
Yes, but it can start at the state legislature, which is a lot easier. But you need a lobbying campaign to get anywhere. Louis Rossmann has made some progress this way by banding together with farmers, and while it’s painful and expensive, it does work.
So if we’re going to do something in the US, we need a lobbiest, a lawyer (to draft a bill), and a lot of people to show up and give testimony. But we only need to win in one state, and then it gets a lot easier. So:
Pick a state with good consumer protections and a market segment that’s somewhat rated to what you want (video games probably won’t work, but other software could)
Work with pissed off companies to put together a lobby
Find a few reps that care (e.g. the reps for those companies’ districts), and get them to sponsor your bill
Appeal to regular people saying this is a stepping stone to what they actually want
Get people to annoy their reps, show up to hearings, etc in support of the bill
Get the bill to the floor (crazy amount of effort)
If the bill passes, start the process over in the next state, which should go smoother
Once you have legal precedent, repeat the process with a small expansion to the thing you actually care about. This should be a lot easier, because you’re just expanding the same rights to more types of customers.
It’s much more of a long shot, but it does seem possible.
Awesome, thanks! This is literally the first time I’ve seen this petition, so I appreciate the extra info. I also wasn’t sure if it was part of Stop Killing Games or a separate initiative (looks like it’s at the 26min mark of the first video).
I’m in the US (looks like Ross Scott is too?) so I obviously can’t sign it, but I am very much interested on the outcome since it’ll likely impact me. If it’s strictly limited to SP games, that’s a lot less interesting since that can easily be region locked (so it would just be the same as piracy for me), but if it also forces release of server code, then I’m getting something I couldn’t before.
For US people, there’s still hope. It looks like Louis Rossmann is pissed off about this as well, but from a regular software perspective (Odyssee and YouTube), so he might try something similar to what he did with Right to Repair. He has a bit wider reach and probably a very different audience, and maybe he can help get something going in the US.
Thanks for the links, I’ll see what I can do to spread the word.
I’m not in the EU, so I’m really not familiar with this process, and I’m guessing a number of EU citizens also aren’t familiar. If there’s any related information, it would be good to link it.
Right, but the petition explicitly says it’s not expecting any additional resources.
neither does it expect the publisher to provide resources for the said videogame once they discontinue it
If that was the intent, the petition should have been more clear, saying it expects any resources not part of the downloaded game but necessary for the full experience to be made available once the game is discontinued, perhaps specifically calling out server code.
If this turns into a bill, I fully expect online content to be excluded since that would require more than just removing the “phone home” bit of games.