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Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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I don’t understand what that has to do with the discussion.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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Bro why are you being so argumentative?

What are you talking about? Do you expect me to just reply to everyone who provides a response “Yes, you’re correct” and move on? Am I not allowed to participate in the discussion I started?

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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Valve didn’t expand Steam into Linux to gain market share in a new market

…I didn’t say anything about Linux?

there isn’t a successful second app store that isn’t tied to hardware

That doesn’t mean there couldn’t be.

even Amazon quit Android

Well everything I’ve read about Amazon indicates that it was atrocious for everyone so that’s unsurprising.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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Now that I’m thinking about it they’d probably have to de-list those cross-platform games from the Google app or make them unavailable, which would probably lead to a lot of confusion.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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Well there is that but there’s also the example I gave in the OP where devs could potentially extend their existing games into a new market, increasing their potential audience. A single license would gain a new platform with potential sales opportunities.

Ulrich, (edited ) do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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more work and risk then its worth.

It’s worth billions.

theyd have to convince people to essentially break androids walled garden

It’s not anymore a “walled garden” than Windows.

Then there is the fact that phones are different specs, more testing

There are billions of potential PC configurations. Android would be extremely easy by comparison.

valve would gain little

Did I mention billions? 💵

i think not mucking around in an already monopolistic mobile market is a pretty wise business decision on their part overall.

You could be right.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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…because a phone fits in your pocket? And it already goes everywhere with you?

Even if you think it’s dumb (which I mostly agree with) Apple alone makes more money from mobile gaming than every other gaming platform combined.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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I don’t think they would get away with selling games in the app if games were playable on Android

I’m saying they would need a separate app to purchase, install and play Android games.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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I didn’t realize that but it doesn’t change the fact that:

  • The PC draws way more power than is needed
  • The PC must be powered on (mine draws ~40 watts at idle)
  • A monitor has to be plugged in and turned on.
  • The aspect ratio on the devices have to match or you’ll get letterboxing.
  • If your main display is 4k it will run the game at 4k even if you’re playing on a 720p display so you have to go in and change the graphical settings every time you switch devices.
  • In my limited experience it literally just doesn’t even work at all.
  • Even if you’re running over the web you’re limited to the strength of your data connection.

It just doesn’t work like it should, in my opinion. Hopefully they can fix this in the future with Steam Machines.

Ulrich, (edited ) do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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I’ve installed them all. FDroid, Obtainium, Aurora, Accrescent, along with a slew of other sideloaded independent apps, on several devices. That’s not how it works.

If you sideload an app, a pop-up will ask if you want to enable the current app to install the new app and give the typical warning about malware that you’ll get on any OS (for good reason). You click the pop-up, it redirects you to the proper location in the settings app, you toggle the switch and…that’s it.

The instructions are right here on Epic’s website

Instead you have to open the file browser and find it in your downloads folder, then you can install it from there.

Yes that’s how it works on Windows and Mac as well.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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That’s exactly my point. The current app lets you buy PC games despite being distributed through the store.

And they could continue doing so while also distributing a separate app independently that allows you to buy Android games.

Notice if you try to buy a movie from Amazon on Google TV they redirect you to the website. They could do the same or redirect you to the non-Google version.

I’m just saying I think there are reasons they haven’t done it (yet?)

I agree, I just find it very curious what those reasons are.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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You said it’s easier than installing Windows

No I didn’t. What I said was:

We’re talking about installing an app.

I’m saying it’s easier to sideload apps on Android than it is on Windows and MacOS, where it is the primary distribution method used by average people every day.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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If they start allowing users to install android games, Google is going to stop them from having anything useful in their play store app.

They would have to distribute it independently. Google would have no say in the matter.

what would Steam do if they started getting android-only games being submitted. Or mobile-quality games dominating their store?

…cash their checks? I don’t understand the question. That’s the point.

it might be something they’ve discussed but they would have rather focused on steam deck-type gaming for mobile.

perhaps an ARM-based steam OS+steamdeck approach would make more sense

…why not both?

Although Valve seems to like staying in their lane so that seems like the most likely explanation.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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And hows that working out for epic?

I don’t know, it’s only been around for a few months.

Valves strategy of not doing anything new in the last decade

That’s not their strategy. I mean, among other things you may have heard of this thing called the Steam Deck? Or Family Sharing? SteamOS? Shit there’s a new video every week about Steam Client updates and improvements.

Ulrich, do gaming w Why doesn't Steam support Android?
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No, they would have to create and distribute their own app store, just like Epic.

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