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muhyb, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

Godzilla had a stroke trying to read that title.

BakedCatboy, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

Had to read the article to find out that they mean 72 “years worth of orbits” happen in 1 earth day. Although unlikely I was hoping that it was orbiting so fast that 1 earth day there would pass 72 earth years to a stationary observer due to time dilation. Not sure how fast it would need to go for that to happen.

XeroxCool,

Since time and speed are relative, to have 1 Earth day on the star and see 72 years on Earth, it’d simply be a speed multiplier of 72*365.24= 26,296.28 times faster. Our solar system orbits the galactic center at 250km/s or 0.0008c, so ~26k times that puts it at nearly 22c relative to us. So no.

But quite frankly, there must be a way to be a slower observer. Earth’s orbital speed is about 30km/s (0.0001c) so that drops the product way down to 2.6c. And while the Parker Solar Probe holds the record for the fastest man made object at 0.0006c at its closest solar approach, it actually took a lot of energy to slow it down to get it to the sun and stall it’s orbit. Otherwise, it’d just orbit it the same as the Earth. It slides out to a Venusian distance from the sun at apogee and drops to 12km/s, halving the differential requirement to +1.2c. But if everything is relative, how do we even determine where 1c is and know it’s so definitively impossible to reach? I don’t know, I’m starting to have an existential crisis. Maybe time just keeps dilating and simple addition/subtraction doesn’t apply for appreciable values of c so you have to start multiplying in decimals.

BakedCatboy,

Relativistic time dilation is nonlinear, so the time dilation “multiplier” approaches infinity as you approach the speed of light. So you will never need more than 1c to pass any finite amount of time for the observer while only passing a smaller amount of time for the moving object. Using a time dilation calculator, it looks like 1 day inside the moving object to 72 years for the stationary observer works out to roughly 99.9999999% the speed of light (9 nines total). Of course if you take into account earths movement as a “stationary” baseline then it’ll depend on whether you’re moving with or against the fast moving object.

It used to melt my brain too but there’s no need to know “absolutely stationary” since you’re comparing 2 objects. And due to the time dilation, the 1c limit is different depending on the observer, the time dilation will prevent anyone from observing >1c even if one person is going 0.9c relative to another person who is also going 0.9c relative to a stationary observer.

Tristaniopsis, w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

That doesn’t make sense. Is it 72 years or a day?!?

Clent,

Sounds like it’s 72 orbits per Earth day.

Shit headline.

Reminds me of Facebook posts that intentionally show the wrong answer to increase engagement.

po_tay_toes,
@po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Yes.

HootinNHollerin, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering

Are the wobbles just from the gas cloud being pulled by gravity from everything?

state_electrician, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

There goes the real estate market.

AmidFuror, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

Well, there goes that idea. I will have to look for other places to retire.

Gork, w U.N. committee to take up issue of satellite interference with astronomy

COPUOS operates by consensus, requiring approval of all of its more than 100 member states to move forward on any issue, and thus allowing even a single nation to block action

That’s a shitty way to get anything done. Unanimous approval should only be for really big issues. Otherwise just let it be a majority vote.

Maalus,

Countries were felled because of veto powers. It’s a stupid approach to most things.

Zaktor, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

It feels like the title should be “uninhabited”. Life on earth doesn’t survive because we continue to be bombarded with nutrient carrying asteroids, it just needed them to kick it off. That few nutrients are likely to make it from the surface to the ocean means the genesis is unlikely to occur, but it doesn’t seem to make a decision about whether an unlikely genesis could survive, even if only in a small pocket of the ocean.

Grass, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

Did anyone ever think it was inhabitable?

thebardingreen,
@thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

The news is really interesting exobiology science, but the headline is terrible.

wintermute_oregon,

Yes. That’s been a theory even since I was a child in the 70’s. They don’t mean humans but life in general

Kolanaki, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering
!deleted6508 avatar

Maybe it’s that thing from Star Trek: Generations that trapped Kirk.

caseyweederman,

really narrows it down

fitjazz,

Nexus was definitely my first thought when I read the headline.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT,

Thank you, sending a link to this article along with your take, to my message groups, has brought me and my friends real joy

NegativeLookBehind, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

It’s just a space snake, chill tf out

HootinNHollerin,

Where’s Samuel L Jackson when you need him

Denalduh,

He’s busy pressing the snake button on the microwave.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres, w Saturn's largest moon most likely uninhabitable

Maybe for you but I’m built different.

x4740N, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering

Reminds me of that thing from one of the star trek movies

givesomefucks, w There may be a 'dark mirror' universe within ours where atoms failed to form, new study suggests

I always thought of our universes as just a bubble, with dark matter all around us. It’s not the edge of the existence as much as the edge of our bubble.

We might not be the only bubble, but it’s impossible to interact or even observe them. Could be millions, could just be us. No way to every know.

Our bubble keeps expanding, until the edges aren’t dense enough to displace whatever’s out there. And we’ll either slowly fade and future civilizations will assume the universe has always shrunk. Because that’s all they’ve ever seen. Like if the human lifespan was a single minute, people would freak out everytime it approaches dawn or dusk. Not understanding that it’s a cycle.

It’s all about timescale.

Ashyr, w A Mysterious Wave-Like Structure in Our Galaxy Found to Be Slowly Slithering

Is it like a zipper? Have we tried beaming music into it?

psvrh,
@psvrh@lemmy.ca avatar

Why you only callin’ us when you got your dramas?

PhAzE,

I’m the ex

CCMan1701A,

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