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UlyssesT, w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”

“Postal” is such a steaming pile of edgelord shit that even Civvie11 doing videos on the franchise doesn’t make it any more bearable for me.

Critical support for this developer’s message here, that said.

axont,

I appreciate Postal 2 because the premise is kinda funny. It’s deliberately designed so you can beat it without doing any violence at all. You’re given tasks like get milk, pick up your paycheck, etc. And it involves standing in lines or people berating you. You’re stuck doing tedious annoying repetitive tasks, or you can get a flamethrower. I think standing in line to get Gary Coleman’s autograph takes 90 minutes if you do it normally.

Otherwise it’s very silly early 2000s edgy white guy dudebro humor

UlyssesT, (edited )

You’re stuck doing tedious annoying repetitive tasks, or you can get a flamethrower.

That premise, while cute, hasn’t aged well for me. The ever-rising number of chanlords shooting up their schools (and elder chanlords murder-suiciding their own families) because no one would blow them behind the bleachers (or because the wife left him or the kids won’t call anymore) sours the premise of “wouldn’t it be funny to murder everyone that mildly annoyed you” white guy dudebro humor for me long ago.

winkerjadams,

Yo its a video game

UlyssesT,

“Yo its a video game”

Yeah, and that changes nothing about why I don’t like it. You’re giving a lazy thought terminating cliche here.

EDIT: Christ, you activated a long dormant alt account just to stan for your edgy video game? That’s just sad.

winkerjadams,

This is my only lemmy account and I made it before reddit killed 3rd party apps as I quit going on there. Going through my post history to try and judge me is something weird to do though

UlyssesT,

Going through my post history to try and judge me is something weird to do though

Rising from dormancy while otherwise doing nothing with that account, just to announce how mad you are that your edgy game wasn’t to my liking is weirder to me.

“Yo its just an opinion”

winkerjadams,

I comment when I have something relevant to say and typically delete mean shit after typing it out cause morons like you aren’t worth my time.

Have a nice life man. Hope you find something you can enjoy your time at instead of whatever it is you’re doing.

UlyssesT,

I comment when I have something relevant to say and typically delete mean shit after typing it out cause morons like you aren’t worth my time.

Surely someone must be a moron if they don’t like your edgy video game! What an emergency! And I’m so not worth your time that you’re still replying, you foaming frothing edgy gamer stereotype. frothingfash

Have a nice life man. Hope you find something you can enjoy your time at instead of whatever it is you’re doing.

Your passive aggression and petty concern trolling attempt, because I didn’t like your edgy video game, is noted and will receive all the consideration it deserves. kirby-wave

kniescherz, w How I discovered 4K IPTV (Yes really, the resolution is 2160p).

Ans reason I shouls look into iptv when I am not into sports?

KingIPTV, (edited )

Hey there. There are tons of reasons to use IPTV other than sports. Speaking from the perspective of our server, we have a huge variety of channels from all your local news, to your favorite reality channels, and much more. Apart from the live channels we also have a video on demand section with over 100,000 pieces of content which is updated daily. All the content in our subscription is the content you would find on other services plus much more. If you have a device I highly recommend you get a free trial to check it out! Here is the invite to ours, King IPTV lemmy.opensupply.space/post/4

HawlSera, w Rockstar selling you cracked copies on Steam

Not the first time, won’t be the last.

Kazumara, w How I discovered 4K IPTV (Yes really, the resolution is 2160p).

Holy shit you need a rule against allcaps titles

burnt_toast,
@burnt_toast@lemmy.opensupply.space avatar

Yes. Right now, it’s listed in the posting guidelines: lemmy.opensupply.space/post/1

But I suppose I’ll have to enforce it.

trk, w How I discovered 4K IPTV (Yes really, the resolution is 2160p).
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

just join the discord/telegram and ask them for a free 24hr trial

Yeah, nah.

burnt_toast,
@burnt_toast@lemmy.opensupply.space avatar

Personally, I would prefer element or signal, as suggested in the posting guidelines: lemmy.opensupply.space/post/1

But most of the providers have been operating on discord/telegram for a while and are unwilling to make the shift. They have their reasons too, I guess.

lukas, (edited )
@lukas@lemmy.haigner.me avatar

Reasons:

  • Because we’ve always done it that way.
  • Because others have always done it that way.
  • Because someone told them to.
  • Because they’ve got a Discord/Telegram account already.
  • Because they did their research, and their target market segment uses Discord/Telegram.

Platform lock-in risk? What is that? Can you eat that?

RamSwamson,

Had me until that part!

Nakoichi, w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

Abolish intellectual property (and private property in general)

anarchrist, (edited )

There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me.

The sign was painted, said ‘Private Property.’

But on the backside, it didn’t say nothing.

This land was made for you and me.

Trebach, (edited )

And the sign said anybody caught trespassing
Would be shot on sight.
So I jumped over the fence and I yelled at the house,
"Hey, what gives you the right
To put up a fence to keep me out
Or to keep mother nature in?"
If God was here he'd tell you to your face
"Man, you're some kind of sinner!"

privadesco, (edited ) w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”

Denuvo is the apex of a long history of bad choices.

Maybe actually sell us the games in a way we really own it, without any sort of online activation/account/telemetry/data-gathering like when we could buy a disc and just use it, and it should all be ok.

I feel like a dinosaur every-time I think this nowadays, but what is so problematic with the “own as in physically own” that is so hard to implement? If they want to provide a service, sell a service.

In the past I used pirate versions of games I bought just to be able to play them offline, or because I did not agree with the terms of service. It is so much for our info, it goes beyond just knowing you are the real owner of the software copy: it comes to the point where it looks like it’s to guarantee we are not its’ owner.

Now some DRMs even destroy gaming performance and its just faster to use 'ked versions. I hope it changes somehow.

Infiltrated_ad8271, (edited )
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

Is it really possible to own them properly? If in almost all cases we lack the source code and there are even proprietary requirements for both software and hardware, what chance do they have of working halfway well in a few decades?

MaggiWuerze,

And with stuff like SecuRom, even owning a legit physical copy of the game does not help you when the service vanishes

dingus, (edited ) w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Running With Scissors is a “legendary” developer?

Postal was a violent mess that didn’t age well.

Postal 2 was a buggy mess that also didn’t age well.

After that, it was just legitimately bad games on top of the humor not aging well. (They literally don’t even acknowledge Postal 3)

Seriously, who the fuck would label them legendary? They’ve been a broken mess for over a decade.

verysoft, (edited )

For clicks and to bait comments exactly like this one.

Zorque,

People who agree with their stance on DRM.

Theres a definite trend of people elevating the value of opinions of those they agree with. It makes any kind of intelligent discourse very hard to do.

LeylaLove,

I’d label them legends in the sense that they’re probably one of the game studios I know by name the best even though that’s all they have to show for it. Postal 2 for as bugged and edgy as it is, is an extraordinarily famous game.

DrQuint,

know by name

Sure

know the best

Ehh… Even putting aside things like Nintendo… Let’s just say I know the names of actual developers on several small studios, including bad games, and I have no idea of a single person who made Postal

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

They didn't release the third game, it was done by a third party (I believe with some licensing shenanigans?), which is why they don't acknowledge Postal 3. They didn't make it. Which is why they (somewhat recently) have given the A-OK to pirate that game.

I'd assume that last part is why they say legendary.

000999,

All this serves to prove is that you have fucking god awful taste

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m thinking that’s gonna be a bit of projection on your part.

000999,

I’m honestly disappointed to see people disrespecting two absolute classics in such a way.

I can understand not liking the first postal, but postal 2? I’m afraid there is no hope for you

dingus, (edited )
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Glad to know you never grew out of your edgy gamer bro stage. Being able to pee on things is peak gaming, amirite? /s

I’m literally saying this as one of the few people who watched the Postal movie more than once simply because it had David Foley in it and I’m okay with bad movies.

000999,

Pretty much, yeah. I don’t feel the need to posture as somehow intellectually superior to a game that is designed to be fucking stupid. I appreciate and recognise all art for exactly what it is.

dingus, (edited )
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s more that there’s actually games that rise to the level of great art that are designed to be fucking stupid, like Katamari Damacy, which leans hard into absurdism, and is often quite funny, but more importantly the gameplay is original, brilliant, and fun. The art direction in KD is also off the charts quality, especially the music, all of which was written for the game.

Look, I loved Postal 2 back in the day (I always sort of rolled my eyes at Postal, but 2 seemed less serious and more tongue-in-cheek). I might even replay it someday, but it’s not great art. Especially now it’s ugly, it’s clunky, more importantly it continues to be a buggy mess. Not even a Gary Coleman cameo could save it. They were fun games for what they were and for the time they existed in, and it’s okay to remember them for that, but it’s a little absurd to just act like the world hasn’t moved on and that they were great art to begin with. Art direction was bad, level design was bad, there was a lot of bad stuff about the game, beyond even getting into the edgelord shit.

Bad art is okay. I love B-movies, but we don’t have to pretend they’re anything other than what they are: B-movies.

000999,

I’m sorry but that is exactly why postal 2 is good. Unpretentious, offensive, provocative, unpolished raw art designed to generate chaos - whilst simultaneously having that certain charm which is impossible to put into words (hence the cult following) - which is exactly what it did. All of that without punching down (OK there was a bit of dodgy stuff, but for the time period it isn’t too bad). Truly one of the greats and you can’t change my mind, so we’ll have to agree to disagree.

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, it’s fine to agree to disagree, but just one caveat

OK there was a bit of dodgy stuff

Man this game came out two years after 9/11 and went whole hog on the “all muslims are terrorists” stereotype. It punched down quite a bit.

000999,

Just my opinion, but that was an intentionally outrageous caricature of the narrative being served by the US government, and in fact the way many americans viewed Muslims at the time. Or it could be outright racism/sectarianism but idk I haven’t looked into it at all. Thats the beauty of postal 2 I guess

dingus, (edited )
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

but that was an intentionally outrageous caricature of the narrative being served by the US government

I actually agree with you here, but I had a serious experience years later that changed my mind on the whole thing. It’s perfectly fine for folks like us who have any kind of media literacy to understand that it’s maybe not meant to be making fun of Muslims, but rather America, but…

GTA 5 has this torture scene, right? It hit me like a brick wall one day when I met people who read that scene way, way, way differently than I did. I had read it as an indictment of torture. The problem is, there’s way too many people who think that scene is cool as fuck and want to do that kind of shit in real life. It’s like the people who look up to Scarface from the movie Scarface. Like these characters aren’t good people or people to look up to, but because America is full of violent uneducated fucking yokels you had a bunch of absolute fucking idiots taking the exact opposite message from it. ( I mean, just look at Trump voters…)

You can’t control how others interpret your art, and if you’re not clear enough, you might end up in a similar position as the people behind Postal 2 and GTA 5, where you have a lot of folks totally misinterpreting what you’re trying to say, and then deciding it means vile, horrible things are not just okay, but cool.

It’s actually something I worry about a lot in life, because I’ve had so many times where I thought I was teaching a person one thing, but it turned out I was accidentally teaching them something horrible. In a country with basically no media literacy and an average 7th grade reading level, we can’t actually take it for granted that absolute fucking morons might misunderstand us.

The problem in particular with Postal 2’s caricature of the views of Muslims in America is that functionally, most Americans who played the game never understood that intent or cared. So when it came down to it, they further entrenched those ideas in the American consciousness, instead of them being read by most people as a critique. Was that their intent? No. Does it matter that the opposite happened? Yes.

000999,

That’s a valid take, and actually explains why a large number of people will never understand the nuances or even primary message of art. For example, conservatives discovering the true meaning of “killing in the name of” by rage against the machine.

I suppose RWS knew the consequences of this, which reveals the nihilistic backbone of the game’s theme.

dingus, (edited )
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not sure they knew the consequences, I think at the time, like me, they actually had more faith that the majority of Americans would read it as what it was. As a young person, I definitely thought there were more thoughtful people.

It’s easier to critique now, 20 years on, because we’re not experiencing the same things the video game industry was at the time. From the insufferable Jack Thompson to Hillary Clinton wanting to ban GTA over the leaked Hot Coffee code that wasn’t in the main game, but locked away in files inaccessible to most, the industry was under attack and being blamed for all Americas ills. Several games, but mostly GTA and Postal, were holding up a mirror to American society and saying things similar to what I said in my last comment: “America has a bunch of ignorant violent gun-toting people living in it, and they were there before video games were, it’s a violent consumer and celebrity obsessed society, so America maybe you need to sort your problems first before blaming us.” At the time, a fair stance to take, but 20 years on, a decision that lead to a lot of negativity and more mixed feelings on the legacy of the game due to it.

It was easy to think back then that acceptance of gaming in the mainstream wasn’t a given, but games now out-profit movies, and some of the biggest “blockbusters” are games. We were honestly probably worried over nothing.

AOCapitulator,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

games can be art, not all games are, and not all deserve respect

aksdb,

I piss on people who talk shit about Postal 2 and then I throw a cow head over their fence. If they dare to continue I get the cat …

000999,

Poor cat, his hole can only take so much

miracleorange,

No one said the legends were good.

doublepepperoni,
@doublepepperoni@hexbear.net avatar

The Titanic is a legendary ship, but it wasn’t a very good ship

ours,

But everybody has heard about the Titanic.

Pixelologist,
@Pixelologist@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Was it really the ship’s fault tho?

unonessun0centomila,

While I’m not fond of the company, and perhaps legendary is a bit excessive, they’re still a big name that made remarkable videogames. With Postal 2 they nailed it, can’t say about the other 3 because I’ve never played them.

space_comrade,

You’re not the target audience, the target audience is edgy teenage boys. Postal 2 was the perfect game for 13 year old me.

You’re right labeling them as “legendary” is just weird tho.

tangentzeroee, w Release discussions ?

Now is your opportunity to make a community “piracy releases” or something. I’d subscribe.

ndsvw, w German Chancellor officially endorses piracy!
@ndsvw@feddit.de avatar

For a day, I thought, this was AI generated…

Then I found out…

rikudou, w A month of mostly shitty, DRM-protected movies for free
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Hi there fellow Czech! Where do you usually pirate stuff?

DirtyCNC, (edited )

Ahoj,

uloz.to + FreeRapid Downloader. The baseline speed of around 1.2 GB/h is enough for 720p and some 1080p movies which FreeRapid Downloader allows me to “stream” if I enable opening unfinished files. I can get a film running on my Linux HTPC (old laptop) <3 minutes after my family agrees on one (the hardest part). Our TV is rather small and 768p so resolution is not a concern but I sit close and like to enjoy at least 576p DVD quality.

I have qBittorrent installed but I am in no private trackers (yet). I would especially welcome one that has German dubs because original & Czech ones are easy.

Join us at czech-lemmy.eu!

MigratingApe,

I’ve seen good amount of German dubbed goodies on various IRC XDCC channels (why are they so popular?)

kaya, w Newbie who wants to get into Uploading, but it confused about everything around video encoding
@kaya@eviltoast.org avatar

Have personally not used it but I can suggest trying this tool out: github.com/L4GSP1KE/Upload-Assistant

scarrtt, (edited ) w How I discovered 4K IPTV (Yes really, the resolution is 2160p).

The only way I have found to get reliable IPTV services is to post on local Facebook groups. There is invariably a few middle-aged guys who can’t spell properly and who can you “mate” who will know which service works best in your area and be resellers of said service. A few 24-hour trials and you can usually figure out what suits you best.

shoomba, w How I discovered 4K IPTV (Yes really, the resolution is 2160p).

Are you willing to share the spreadsheet you have so far? Or maybe sticky it to your new community? It would be nice to have a way to verify/review the providers posting on the community provide what they claim.

JoeCoT,
@JoeCoT@kbin.social avatar

The spreadsheet of verified info on iptv providers would be far more useful than a lemmy community where random providers can post.

palmdale,

Community is good for further discussion but agreed I mostly want to see the spreadsheet.

XpeeN, (edited )

Verified vendors, but yeah the spreadsheet will be great

burnt_toast, (edited )
@burnt_toast@lemmy.opensupply.space avatar

I understand why you think that might be the case, but I’ve set up the community such that you can’t create a post unless you are approved by an admin. Approval here means that your service needs to be vetted before you can post. The whole point is to find quality providers and share reviews, if we allow anyone to post, the community would be overrun by low effort spammers in no time.

Also, see this comment on why I’m hesitant to share the spreadsheet.

itGoesWooWoo,

I CAN HAZ CSV PLZ

TaxEvader42069,
@TaxEvader42069@sh.itjust.works avatar

Agreed. The problem with these sorts of IPTV lists is they get spammed to hell with questionable providers/resellers

burnt_toast,
@burnt_toast@lemmy.opensupply.space avatar

I’m a little hesitant to post the spreadsheet, since most top-tier providers don’t want their information posted publicly. I reached out to each provider to ask them if they would be willing to have their service listed, what you see in the community are the providers who are comfortable posting publicly. A few more (about 6) will be posting soon, the rest have really poor quality (you can find these guys on the first page of google) and have been rejected from the community.

The community also allows providers to post updates, subscribers can discuss and give feedback, which in turn helps other folks. I think building a good quality repository of community contributions will pay off long term.

OurMoneyIsBroken,

Please share whatever you can. Especially interested in the 4k low lag services. 🙏

burnt_toast,
@burnt_toast@lemmy.opensupply.space avatar

The 4k ones are all in the community

neo, w Re-Encode Advice?
@neo@hexbear.net avatar

Depending on what I’m encoding, I am trying as much as possible to do AV1 + Opus.

x264 kind of stands on its own. It is a legendary encoder with excellent encode times, but h264 is an ancient codec and it really shows if you don’t give it a bitrate that’s, frankly, too high. I use it most frequently these days for sharing short, low res clips of videos on Discord or through iMessage or something.

So that leaves us with with our modern choices: hevc, vp9, and AV1.
Off the bat I would say VP9 is irrelevant just because it’s way too slow to encode, and is effectively superseded by AV1. To whatever extent possible I try to use AV1, reencode into AV1, download AV1, and so forth. When done correctly it will shrink files even smaller than hevc can, it can encode relatively quickly with SVT-AV1 and is patent unencumbered so it’s actually supported in web browsers. If the video is an AV1 .webm it will play in Firefox. If I need subtitles, I can put them in a .mkv.

HEVC (with x265) is a pretty strong choice. I will not avoid downloading torrents in this format but I will avoid encoding into it. It maybe has better compatibility in certain cases, like if you have a “smart” TV (ugh) that can natively decode it. In which case that might override any decision you will make: you just want the best compatibility with your existing hardware.

As for audio, that’s Opus. Every time. It absolutely whips. For stereo audio I can do Opus at 96 or 112kbps and it is transparent. Another source with more going on (maybe loud explosions and effects and all that) could possibly benefit from 128. It’s great.

The final thing to mention about encoding is no matter which codec you use you will have to learn a bit about how to use it. You can one and done the encoders with default choices, but at minimum you do need to factor in what happens when you do things like change preset speeds. From there you can consider things like what about changing the keyframe interval (for shorter vids I will do more frequent keyframes to make seeking tolerable. For something like a full movie a keyframe every 10 seconds is probably fine. But what about scene detection? What about bit depth?). Potentially much to consider.

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