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pm_me_your_puppies, w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president
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I’m kinda surprised to see the hate this game is getting.

I’m probably 80% ish of the way through and while I wouldn’t say it’s my GOTY or anything, it’s fun. I appreciate the different direction they took, and the combat is just straight up fun.

The side quests do suck. Some of the zones are absolutely bland and consist of nothing but wide open space and random enemies just kinda… peppered in there. The Eikon battles are cool and pretty and badass but gameplay-wise they are boring. So yeah, it’s not a masterpiece, but I’m enjoying it.

some_guy, (edited )
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Lol nobody in this thread is hating on it. You must be seeking out negative opinions if you’re seeing them, because everything Ive chanced across has been middle of the road to positive about the game.

Nefyedardu,

Wasn't a fan of the gameplay at all. It's in a kind of no man's land where it isn't an RPG but it's also nowhere near as good as DMC or Bayonetta. It's just so damn easy to button mash through everything. There is depth there if you want to explore it but it's a flaw in the game design that you are not actually incentivized to do that.

Andyzoot, w Surprise! Red Dead Redemption Blasts Onto Switch Next Week

Full price for a straight port of a 13 year old game? I could probably get a PS3 and a copy of the original game for that.

Ganondorf,
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That sort of cash grab is to be expected of Rockstar

ombremad,

I got a copy of the Xbox 360 GOTY version on a yard sale for €10. It includes Undead Nightmare and works on my Series X in 4K. I mean… why even bother with this new version

spike, w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president
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Also only releasing on one console is a relict of the past and misses out on so many sales.

We have the technology to compile to every current gen console + pc with the right engines. Square should release their games for all consoles at once.

combustible_lemon_engineer,

For Series X sure. Given it performance issues on PS5 getting it to run on the Series S might have been pretty challenging.

Darkaga,

And they're not allowed to release it unless on the X if didn't run on the S. See: Baulder's Gate 3

Neato,
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But then how will Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo ensure you have to buy their console to play their IPs?

spike,
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Actual Good Hardware for a reasonable price. Or gimmick control schemes like the ps vita, Wii (U) or occasionally the Switch. I loved the first “The World Ends With You” on the NDS, tried emulating it, but the control scheme without a touch screen and the physical buttons are so weird, I bought a 3DS to relive that masterpiece since my DS Lite died.

QuarterlySushi,
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While it’s a little more complicated than just compiling the code for multiple platforms, I do agree that the effort would have been worth it

Fermiverse, w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

I passed because it looked like FF DMC edition to me, not like a FF.

QuarterlySushi,
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It pretty much is, but if you like DMC then you’d probably enjoy this combat too. The plot is.. extremely FF. For better or worse.

skellener, w Linux passes Mac for Steam's second-most used OS, possibly due to Steam Deck
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And the Vision Pro ain’t gonna save Mac gaming either.

Turkey_Titty_city, w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

FF games have been crap since 10. I bought 15 on discount and was completely disappointed at how bland and lifeless the entire experience was. They have taken the series too far into MMO land, and need to go back to focusing on a good story with good characters, rather than a 'open world' with fancy graphics and lifeless characters.

13 was also a incomprehensible joke of a story, which they padded out to become even more absurd with the sequels.

soapysloth73,

It’s interesting you say that because this entry isn’t particularly “open world”. It’s actually fairly linear with a focus on the story and characters.

The MMO comparison is still fair though because the zones are very reminiscent of FF14. They all connect to each other and can be re-visited, but you’re not really free roaming a giant open world.

Side quests are also 14-like and I don’t mean that as a compliment. Go to A to talk to B. Go to C to talk to D. That can mostly be skipped though.

sneezycat,
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“nooooooo turn-based combat is outdated and a limitation of old hardware, players don’t want it”

meanwhile, Baldur’s Gate 3…

Nefyedardu,

Yeah it makes no sense. "Let's ditch turn-based combat for and even more niche genre, character action! Surely this will make us more money, right?"

ophy,

A Spinoff CRPG Final Fantasy game would actually be really interesting, and a funny way to go full circle with how much the original FF1 drew from the likes of DnD.

ophy,

They have taken the series too far into MMO land, and need to go back to focusing on a good story

You say that as though FF14 doesn’t have one of the best stories of modern Final Fantasy games.

harmonea,
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You're not wrong, but a lot of people aren't willing to invest the subscription fee and the hundreds of hours they'd need to see that for themselves. And even as someone who's all caught up on 14, I honestly can't blame them. Time is precious, and it's asking for a lot.

Raji_Lev,
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To be fair, that has at least as much to do with the last few entries setting the bar so low. And even then FF14 drops a few stinkers here and there cough Company of Heroes/Titan cough Paladin questline cough

RandallFlagg, w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

I’m interested in playing this but I don’t own a PS5 and I’m not buying a whole console for one game. They would have gotten a day 1 sale out of me if they released it on PC.

CIWS-30,

Knowing them, they'll probably do it. It'll just take a year or so.

Edit: that said, they should've done it to start with, and not kept it off of X-box. They're killing their brand and mindshare here.

Gordon_Freeman,
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they'll probably do it

FTFY. The PC version was confirmed a long time ago

stopthatgirl7,
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Originally, they did plan to release it on PS5 and PC. My guess is Sony made a timed exclusivity deal with them, which Sony had done with companies before. SE shout themselves in the foot by taking it.

QuantumField,

Ditto for me. I have all Final Fantasy games released on PC, but I can’t justify buying a PS5 for a single game. I’ve chosen to watch a let’s play of the game. Glad I did because it’s definitely not a Final Fantasy I’d play a second time.

patchwork, w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

honestly, i started the demo, and while the gameplay wasn’t bad, the characters and story didn’t grab me at all, and i lost interest almost immediately. maybe i’ll snag it in a year or two, after the GOTY, during a sale

JosephTJames, w TEKKEN 8 — Azucena Reveal & Gameplay Trailer
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She is like a blend of many recent lady characters. I like her sun and moon motif on her clothes

Saturdaycat, w Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising Gets a November Release Date, Free Version Announced
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Did they make the auto combo basically the defacto way to play the game now due to no cool downs?

Raji_Lev, w Baldur’s Gate 3’s Statement On Microtransactions Warms The Heart
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The higher the pedestal you put somebody on, the further they have to fall.

Karak, w Saints Row: The third expansion will be released on August 8

I read this really wrong and thought Saints Row: The Third was getting an expansion.

InterSynth, w Baldur’s Gate 3’s Statement On Microtransactions Warms The Heart
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Never put companies on a pedestal.
Before Larian, it was Bungie, BioWare, Rockstar, Bethesda, CD Projekt RED.

ExcessivelySalty,
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@InterSynth Exactly, people need to understand companies are there to make money.

@stopthatgirl7

stopthatgirl7,
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Yup. You’ll always end up disappointed when they inevitably behave just like any other company.

Gingerailed, w Street Fighter 6 Reveals New Outfits for Juri, Marisa, Guile & Dee Jay

She has that 'just got off from work, gettin straight into my onesie i've worn for the past three weeks' swag

ampersandrew, w Street Fighter 6 Reveals New Outfits for Juri, Marisa, Guile & Dee Jay
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That might be the worst site I've ever visited on mobile.

ripcord,
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Seems fine to me, but I'm using Firefox (with ublock) so that may be why.

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