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mindbleach, w Roblox ‘operates illegal gambling ring that preys on children’: lawsuit

Forget the kids and ignore the odds. Any game taking real money is a scam.

(No that doesn’t mean buying games. No that doesn’t mean subscriptions. No that doesn’t mean expansions. No that doesn’t mean card games. No that doesn’t mean arcades. Jesus Christ, do people find a lot of ways to get mad about nonsense, whenever I say this.)

Nothing inside a video game should cost real money. Absolutely fucking nothing. All possible forms are abuse, built on how games by definition invent value for worthless elements that can be arbitrarily granted or withheld. That is what makes them games.

The business model is intolerable - and if we allow it to continue, there will be nothing else. It’s the dominant strategy. Your disgust and non-participation will never outweigh some tiny fraction of people getting taken for obscene quantities of real money in exchange for incrementing a variable. It’s in free mobile trash. It’s in $70 “AAA” flagship-franchise titles. It’s in single-player, multi-player, subscription MMOs - it’s in everything. There is zero incentive for them not to try robbing you like this. Companies that don’t rob you will make less money than companies that do.

Only legislation can fix this.

Ban the entire business model. (No that doesn’t mean games. No that doesn’t mean content. Jesus Christ, am I tired of dealing with pearl-clutching nonsense, just to say “fuck lootboxes.”)

Overt abuse gets disguised. It’s still abuse. All they’re getting better at is how deep the hooks can slide before people notice.

Content is the bait on this hook. All it’s doing is disguising the abuse. The abuse remains. The abuse is the entire point. The abuse is the only part that makes money.

This business model is a threat to the entire medium, and the only real solution is dead simple. We will be fine without it. We will only be fine, without it.

MomoTimeToDie,

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  • mindbleach,

    Lootboxes aren’t “buying content.” Buying a game, is. Buying DLC, is. Gambling on a hat that’s already in the game you’re playing is plainly something different, and increasingly, that’s the only source of revenue.

    This is not theoretical. We’re already in a stupid sci-fi future where four-billion-dollar games can be “”“free”“” and somehow convince people to spend thousands of dollars apiece on a deluge of random bullshit which is also allegedly free. And it’s not even possible to have a sane argument about this shit-show, because people pretend they don’t understand the thing all these games do.

    I want video games to make money the way they did in 2008.

    Do you have an opinion about that?

    If it goes ‘then games would magically look like 2008 forever,’ stop.

    If it goes ‘but then they’d make 2008 kinds of money,’ stop.

    This is new. This is bad. This is spreading. We should stop it.

    Dragonmind, w REDstreams — Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty | Dogtown, Police, Skills and Perks, Car combat

    I was hoping they’d focus on world immersion stuff. Like 90% of the mods do.

    mothersprotege, w Dragon Age Dreadwolf keeps getting delayed internally, report claims

    I think at this point the best plan is to mash all the assets together and release Dragon Effect. Mass Dragon? No, that sounds like maybe a Catholic dragon. Mass Age? No, people will buy it expecting a massage. Maybe subvert all expectations and go with Age Effect! We’ll throw out all the magic and aliens, it’ll be a harrowing exploration of human mortality.

    traveler, w Roblox ‘operates illegal gambling ring that preys on children’: lawsuit

    This is retarded as fuck. As a parent what the fuck you’re doing?

    AlbertScoot, w AMD claims there’s nothing stopping Starfield from adding Nvidia DLSS

    I mean, this has always been the case. This is a practice going back decades for video card manufacturers.

    n3m37h, w Dragon Age Dreadwolf keeps getting delayed internally, report claims

    Just give us Mass Effect

    fruitycoder, w AMD reveals long-awaited FSR 3 tech and frame gen for every DX11/DX12 game

    Any word on Vulkan support?

    Pxtl, w Armored Core VI peaks at 150K peak concurrent Steam players on day 1, making it the 4th biggest launch of 2023. It's also the second biggest From Software launch ever, second only to Elden Ring
    @Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

    I just finished the first really hard boss (Balteus) and I’m having a ball. Can recommend. But play it on PC with KB+M. I know it’s a fromsoft game, but the KB+M controls are 10X as good as gamepad controls.

    Kolanaki, (edited )
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    I feel like I would have beat Balteus by now if I had the game on PC instead of PS5. Even with the auto lock aiming, this asshole moves around faster than I can turn the camera with a stick, even with the camera speed at 10.

    Edit: Wait… Does the PS5 version support M&KB…? 🤔 I’ll have to try later when I have the chance.

    radau,

    That one’s killing me rn on Steam Link I might need to move to the computer lol. Damn thing flies around so quick then blasts you

    Pxtl, (edited )
    @Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

    I beat him with a hardcore mobility and missiles build, but I’ve heard he’s much more doable if you switch to a superheavy build of all plasma weapons (the “Meefcake” is its name in the meta). One thing I noticed is his movement habits make him pretty vulnerable to missiles, which catch up to him when he holds still.

    With mouse and keyboard where you can track him well he’s very fun to fight in close range since he likes to hold still for his missile volleys (you can pour in the damage while dodging), except that his ability to punish you with the bazooka means every screw-up is lethal when you’re in close. And that’s 10X worse when he gets his flaming sword.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    I feel limited in my options because I’ve gotten everything I possibly can to mix up my mech at this point through the missions and the logcabin stuff, and while I do want to be a plasma goblin, I can’t even use 2 plasma guns without overloading my energy, let alone adding in the shoulder cannons. :/

    I only have access to two generators. And one of those is the one I started with.

    retrieval4558,

    I had a decent time fighting balteus but sea spider is going to make me put my controller through my TV.

    Statick,

    Fly above him, use missiles, land only when necessary to replenish energy.

    conciselyverbose, w Armored Core VI peaks at 150K peak concurrent Steam players on day 1, making it the 4th biggest launch of 2023. It's also the second biggest From Software launch ever, second only to Elden Ring

    Wow. It dropped at a rough time, too. BG3 is still going nuts and Starfield is coming soon. It's the kind of thing I'd love to check out but those two (and probably Madden because it's football season) are just going to eat the absolute hell out of my time.

    Blackdoomax, w Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader - Official Companion Trailer | gamescom 2023

    Why romantic preferences?

    anteaters, w Homeworld 3: War Games – Gameplay Trailer
    @anteaters@feddit.de avatar

    Multiplayer vs bots was so much fun back then in 1 and 2 it makes me really happy to see that they have an eye on that style of mp and skirmishing instead of only focusing on pvp or competitive. There are really few games that I’m looking forward to these days but HW3 is definitely in that category.

    Blackdoomax, w Path of Exile 2 - 7 Minutes of Warrior & Huntress Gameplay | gamescom 2023

    Never tried the first one more than a few hours because it didn’t clicked for me. I hope this one will :)

    EmperorHenry, w Roblox ‘operates illegal gambling ring that preys on children’: lawsuit
    @EmperorHenry@sh.itjust.works avatar

    if a scumbag billionaire wants to do it and feels like they can get away with it, they’re going to do it.

    if a dozen or so executives at a corporation think they can get away with it, they’ll do it. That’s why there’s microtransactions in $80 games. I still remember hearing about the first $60 games with microtransactions in them and now these fuckers are trying to charge over $100 for an unfinished game where the only things that work in it are from microtransactions.

    captain_aggravated,
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    The wild thing is, people still buy them. “The gameplay is derivative and insipid, it was delivered buggy and unfinished, it’s barely different than the last one they published, and the business model is outright predatory.”

    “Yeah, but it’s Star Wars.”

    Nacktmull,
    @Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

    I will never understand. I for myself simply ignore games with micro transactions at this point with the only exception of games that have exclusively cosmetic stuff as micro transactions. Fuck pay to win!

    EmperorHenry,
    @EmperorHenry@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I like starwars more than any other franchise.

    But I’m not going to buy any of the fallen order games for at least 2 years. the bugs will be worked out and the deluxe versions will be a much lower price by then

    Varyag, w Armored Core VI peaks at 150K peak concurrent Steam players on day 1, making it the 4th biggest launch of 2023. It's also the second biggest From Software launch ever, second only to Elden Ring
    @Varyag@lemm.ee avatar

    As an AC veteran greatly enjoying the new game after many years waiting, I feel vindicated.

    And don’t worry about sucking at this game! Even I had to spend 6 hours fighting Balteus to finally defeat it. Stick with the game, try different builds until something works for you.

    fckreddit,

    Not everyone has the time or patience to fight a boss for 6 hours. I guess I will stick with my boring ass games with easy modes. No offense to you.

    lustyargonian, w Black Myth: Wukong’s Combat Feels As Good as It Looks | gamescom 2023

    This looks really cool. Monke is kinda hot ngl. I wish I was good at these games, or this one had a difficulty slider.

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