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vzq, w [Eric Berger] Europe has the worst imaginable idea to counter SpaceX’s launch dominance

On the one hand, it’s euro-ULA. On the other hand, I’m not sure there’s an obvious alternative.

threelonmusketeers,

Why not invest in a bunch of the smaller companies like Rocket Factory Ausburg, PLD Space, MaiaSpace, HyImpulse, etc? They won’t all be successful, but if just a couple of them are, the competition would put Europe in a much stronger position than if they were to establish Euro-ULA.

vzq,

I’m not sure we can afford an “either or” strategy.

We should be doing that, we should be doing euro-ULA, and we should be massively expanding (access to) launch infrastructure. There’s only so much you can do when your ranges are literally on the other side of the planet.

threelonmusketeers,

There’s only so much you can do when your ranges are literally on the other side of the planet.

Is suppose French Guiana is a bit far, but Andøya, Esrange, and Saxavord all have plans for orbital launches, don’t they?

Zachariah, w Seed-sized space chip
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Smaller than a strawberry seed, this tiny signal amplifier was produced by the European Space Agency to fill a missing link in current technology, helping to make future radar-observing and telecommunications space missions feasible.

“This integrated circuit is a low noise amplifier, measuring just 1.8 by 0.9 mm across,” explains ESA microwave engineer David Cuadrado-Calle. “Delivering state of the art performance, the low noise amplifier’s task is to boost very faint signals to usable levels.”

SubArcticTundra, w Germany, Italy, and the UK Slash ESA Contributions by €430M
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Didnt expect Canada to be in the ESA

CM400, w ESA Enlists Portuguese Navy Submarine to Prepare for Deep Space

Brilliant.

Dirk, w ArianeGroup and Arianespace announce the departure of Stephane Israël, CEO of Arianespace, and the appointment of his successor David Cavaillolès
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Meanwhile that psychopath billionaire from America shoots up one rocket after another.

threelonmusketeers,

I wish Arianespace were more innovative and competitive in the launch market. Maybe a new CEO will help shake things up?

Dirk,
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Even in the highly volatile IT market big corporations move like dinosaurs. Upper management changes usually do not affect the actual business being done, except for management-related things. I don’t think aerospace corporations are any different.

threelonmusketeers,

So when do you think we’ll see the first reusable launch vehicle from Europe?

Dirk, (edited )
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According to the Themis plans there will be a flight envelope test next year (reusable first stage).

CALLISTO was delayed to sometime in 2025 to 2026 (it’s a testing and evaluation platform so not an actually usable product but something that could lead to usable products in the future, it is also not entirely European).

There might also be Ariane Next replacing Ariane 6 sometime in the 2030s but will only be partially reusable.

All of those are in planning/development since 2020 (which is coincidentally the year in wich Falcon 9 became commercially available).

threelonmusketeers,

I wouldn’t have imagined that nearly a decade later, Falcon 9/Heavy would still be the only reusable orbital launch vehicle. The entire launch industry is playing catch up.

2020 (which is coincidentally the year in wich Falcon 9 became commercially available

Falcon 9 has been flying commercial missions since 2013, no? I think CASSIOPE was the first…

Dirk,
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Falcon 9 has been flying commercial missions since 2013, no?

At least not with humans, according to this Article from 2020:

Space history has been made. On 30 May, SpaceX and NASA launched two astronauts to space aboard the Crew Dragon spacecraft, the first time a private company has flown humans into orbit, and the first crewed launch from the US since the end of the space shuttle programme in 2011.

“This is the first time that SpaceX has ever launched astronauts, and it’s also the first time that a government has trusted a commercial company to launch astronauts to orbit,” says space consultant Laura Forczyk. “It is a big deal.”

newscientist.com/…/2244889-nasa-and-spacex-launch…

threelonmusketeers,

Ah, I didn’t realize you were referring exclusively to crewed missions. Yes, you are correct, the first crewed Falcon 9 launch was in 2020. The flew plenty of uncrewed commercial missions prior to that, though.

It seems like crewed European launch vehicles have a similarly slow timeline to reusable European launch vehicles.

Buzztiger, w Sentinel-1C Launch Thread (return to flight of Vega-C)

Glad this worked out, good to have both Launchers back in service. We need independent access to space for Europe.

Morphit, w Sentinel-1C Launch Thread (return to flight of Vega-C)
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Seperation confirmed! Congratulations ESA and Arianespace.

threelonmusketeers, w Sentinel-1C Launch Thread (return to flight of Vega-C)

AVUM+ ignition 2

threelonmusketeers, w Sentinel-1C Launch Thread (return to flight of Vega-C)

AVUM+ in coast phase.

threelonmusketeers, w Sentinel-1C Launch Thread (return to flight of Vega-C)

The Arianespace webcast experienced an anomaly between T+5:52 and 408s, the Vega C rocket seems to be unaffected.

It appears that we have Staging 3-4, Zefiro 9 burnout and separation, AVUM+ fourth stage ignition.

threelonmusketeers, w Sentinel-1C Launch Thread (return to flight of Vega-C)

Décollage!

Trajectory and propulsion are “nominale”!

Morphit, w Watch eclipse-making Proba-3 launch today
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Great launch - there’s an article from ESA with a video describing the commissioning and operations to come: Eclipse-making double satellite Proba-3 enters orbit

Morphit, (edited ) w Watch eclipse-making Proba-3 launch today
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Due to an anomaly detected in PROBA-3 spacecraft PSLV-C59/PROBA-3 launch rescheduled to tomorrow at 16:12 hours.

That’ll be 2024-12-05 10:42 UTC. Via the ISRO Youtube stream: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJXXLLw0PBI

Edit: I suck at time zones - IST is UTC+0530

BrundleFly2077, w ESA, OpenCosmos sign contract for NanoMagSat mission

What an unfortunate photograph of those two people. Of all the ones they might have picked 😳

threelonmusketeers, w Super heavy-lift, frequent flights to space for Europe: Protein study results

Notables:

The potential proposed use cases of “a solar electricity generator and a data centre” seem not super practical.

The acronym is atrocious: “euroPean Reusable and cOsT Effective heavy lIft transport investigation” (PROTEIN)

The rockets look cool though. I’m excited to see what Rocket Factory Augsburg can do.

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