schizanon, angielski
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ssamulczyk,
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@schizanon What’s overrated is going back to niche friction shifters in inconvenient places in 2023…😂 Some of the things mentioned are awesome. Electronic shifting is expensive, sure. But it works great. And I never again want to have a bike with cables all over the place…🙏@cycling

schizanon,
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@ssamulczyk friction shifters are fine if you've got pie plates and chainring guards which are highly underrated!

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ssamulczyk,
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@schizanon I did my fair share of those in the past on a vintage road bike… I’d have the integrated ones every time. Electronic, if possible!🥰

autumn,
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@schizanon @cycling

  1. clipping in. i’m never gonna do it. i don’t need whatever ounce of efficiency it brings, and i don’t want the higher risk of falling over.

  2. mountain biking. i like my collar bone intact, thank you.

ssamulczyk,
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@autumn That’s funny, because for me it’s the other way around with pedals. My feet keep falling and lifting of the pedals if not clipped in. I’ve never fallen over in nearly 10 years of cycling because of being clipped in… @schizanon @cycling

autumn,
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@ssamulczyk different (pedal) strokes for different folks! i’ve been cycling for a good 15 years now. only fallen twice: hit by a car & following too close behind somebody on a gravel downhill while fully loaded. i don’t think clipping in would have helped either of those, haha.

@schizanon @cycling

famousringo,
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@schizanon @cycling

Overrated: front derailleurs and how many people need more than 5 gears, anyway?

Underrated: cargo racks. People should have to go out of their way to buy a bike that can’t carry stuff, not the other way around. Imagine having to retrofit all your jackets with pockets.

Digger_71,
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@famousringo @schizanon @cycling

I love my front derailleur!😃
I had 72 gears before I fitted a mid drive motor and lost the front derailleur.
I just mounted a spider to the motor replacing the single chainring. I mounted my original 42 and 56 tooth chainrings on it and have refitted the derailleur.
The 42 tooth chainring is slightly smaller than the original one. The 56 tooth chainring is great for downhill speed!😉

WilliamNB,
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@famousringo @schizanon @cycling While I agree with cargo racks, all I'll say about your views on gears is you very obviously never cycle in Devon county, UK! We consider gradients of 5% or less to be flat

ssamulczyk,
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@WilliamNB C’mon, how hard can it be… I run 1x12 and my easiest gear is 38x50… That’s hilariously easy to spin up the hill… @famousringo @schizanon @cycling

WilliamNB,
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@ssamulczyk @famousringo @schizanon @cycling I'm not changing my drivetrain just to catch up with the latest fashions. More to the point, with your 1 x 12 setup, you have 7 more gears than the OP said was necessary 😉

ssamulczyk,
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@WilliamNB In terms of upgrade on a whim it’s not worth it, I agree… But it is when you build a new bike… A year ago I’d go for 1x10. But I had serious issues with mud and cables on my gravel bike and I went nuclear on it. Switched to SRAM AXS (Eagle+Force) and I’d never go back to cables and Shimano…🤷🏻‍♂️ @famousringo @schizanon @cycling

nick,

@WilliamNB @ssamulczyk @famousringo @schizanon @cycling I've been running a 1x before it was cool. Front derailleurs are just a pain. Got a 44 on the front and 11 42 on the back. Does everything i need it to

schizanon,
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@nick @cycling @famousringo @ssamulczyk @WilliamNB I'm weird that I'd rather shift my front derailer than my rear; the spacing is just more useful, but I ride old ten speeds.

nick,

@schizanon @cycling @famousringo @ssamulczyk @WilliamNB maybe its the way i ride the bikes but most issues I've had were front derailleur failures.

WilliamNB,
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@nick @cycling @schizanon @famousringo @ssamulczyk I've never ever had a front derailleur fail on me

ssamulczyk,
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@WilliamNB The only thing that failed me on a bicycle was cables… Once brake cable snapped on me just before crossroads… I had multiple shifter cable issues. Once it took one ride in the mud to ruin just installed brand new cable and housing…🤷🏻‍♂️ @nick @cycling @schizanon @famousringo

geomannie,
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@WilliamNB @nick @cycling @schizanon @famousringo @ssamulczyk I have never had a front derailleur fail either, but then I run friction & replace the cables reasonably often. When servicing other folks bikes, particularly older & lower end bikes, I get a lot of trouble adjusting worn & poorly engineered indexed front derailleurs.

Just run friction, especially on front derailleurs. Few set up issues & so easy to trim.

edd,
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@famousringo So true. I live in a hilly city, but I spend 95+% of my time riding between the 3rd and 6th gears in the back without touching the front derailleur. There's the occasional hill that needs the small gear or allows the big gear in front even with a toddler or loads of groceries behind me.

The extra gearing was nice getting started years ago, but now it's just more things that need adjusting and fixing.

@schizanon @cycling

forpeterssake,
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@famousringo @schizanon @cycling
Ooff, I need all the gears, it's too hilly where I live to get away with only 5 gears. I have 7 gears on the rear derailleur of my ebike, and on the rare occasions when I've run out of juice, the lowest gear isn't enough to get up over the hills. If I lived in a flatter area I might agree with you.

EllenInEdmonton,
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@famousringo @schizanon @cycling
Um, that life without is standard for women's fashion! Why I'm into
And yes, bike storage is critical!

nothingfuture,
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@schizanon @cycling
Most overrated? Carbon. It’s brittle, has a really unfavorable failure mode, and can’t be recycled at end of life.

Aero-everything. Just like being obsessed with a bike’s weight, aero on the bike is marginal gains for most people, and it has really negative effects on the feel/comfort of those bikes too.

geomannie,
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@nothingfuture @schizanon @cycling Most underrated? The square taper bottom bracket. Yes, yes & yes. On one of my bikes the Shimano UN55 BB has been running untouched these last 15+ years, used in all weathers, & still solid.

ssamulczyk,
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@geomannie God, no! It’s probably fused forever with the crank arms. Wait until the bearings give up and someone will have to work on it…😂@nothingfuture @schizanon @cycling

geomannie,
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@ssamulczyk @nothingfuture @schizanon @cycling It happens occasionally (I work on a lot of bikes) but I'll take a BB that has a design life longer than most modern bikes any day.

jbenjamint,
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@geomannie @nothingfuture @schizanon @cycling The last touring expedition I went on where a square taper was present, one of us ended up carrying a club hammer for ongoing repairs - hammering the non-drive crank back on. For touring, the octalink design was a big improvement in reliability over square taper.

geomannie,
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@jbenjamint @nothingfuture @schizanon @cycling That is the problem with bikes, things go wrong, some things more often than others.
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/shimano-11-speed-hollowtech-road-crankset-recall-304003

nick,

@schizanon @cycling

Overrated: Electronic Shifting
Overrated: Faster/Stiffer on every nee model
Underrated: Good cheaper lower spec groupsets

evn,
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@schizanon @cycling Lightweight cassettes, particularly ones with aluminium cogs in them are overrated. On wide range mountain bike cassettes it's very common for the biggest cog or two to be made of aluminium. If you live somewhere with steep climbs this cog will wear way faster than the rest of the drivetrain. I find that with a fully steel drivetrain I don't have to replace chains or cassettes nearly as often.

parsley,
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@schizanon
Anything whose only purpose is to make the bike lighter but an amount that's less than the weight of one muffin.
@cycling

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