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squid_slime, rok temu do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

I’m glad he can see the issue but then part way through the interview he loses it, and jumps to feeding the capitalist system

saltesc, rok temu

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johannesvanderwhales, rok temu do games w 'The gold rush is over:' Slay the Spire and Darkest Dungeon devs say that big Game Pass and Epic exclusive deals have dried up for indie devs

I really wonder how the palworld devs feel about being gamepass day 1. I have no idea what the payouts look like for them. It probably got a lot more people to try their game, but would they have done better selling it only on steam? They probably weren’t in a position to negotiate a very favorable contract with Microsoft.

djsoren19, rok temu

I think that’s looking at the deal in hindsight. Palworld had just as good a chance at flopping completely as hitting #1 worldwide, I imagine they were grateful for the opportunity to have some guaranteed income at the time.

_sideffect, rok temu

Some? Didn’t they make over 400m?

JowlesMcGee, rok temu

I think they meant guaranteed income prior to selling the game, since they had no way of knowing how successful (if at all) the game was going to be once released.

_sideffect, rok temu

Ah, makes sense

sonovebitch, rok temu

Their previous game Craftopia was also on GamePass and somewhat successful. They probably had some leverage for negotiations.

sinceasdf, rok temu

Because craftopia and palworld have a social aspect getting a big seed of players who only played it because it was free (for them) was I think a catalyst in making palworld blow up like it did. There are too many games out there for people to look through so it probably helps get word out effectively to sell out cheap for a big initial audience like gamepass when you’re a small dev. I only knew of craftopia or palworld because of gamepass at least

The flip side is Microsoft is 100% giving the above as a sales pitch to devs why they should put their game on gamepass for peanuts (paid in exposure!). That’s probably some of what drives the shittier deal devs get now

Etterra, rok temu do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

Cry more rich boy, your tears are delicious.

Talaraine, rok temu do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

I dunno, maybe stop going public and just sell a decent game?

eskimofry, rok temu do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

Sounds like skill issue.

regul, rok temu do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

That’s not what capitalism means, dawg.

theboomr, rok temu do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

Comrade?

bjmllr, rok temu do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

phil spencer explains market discipline

Honytawk, rok temu do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

Well, apparently we can

SSJ2Marx, rok temu do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

Unfortunately the more I read the less this seems like a long overdue accounting of the video game industry’s hubris and the more it seems like someone with looking for someone to blame for their failson. These companies have literally hired psychologists to come up with ways to more effectively manipulate their players into buying their digital bullshit, and surprise surprise many of the things those psychologists have come up with are basically unregulated gambling.

I wonder if this is a false flag?

doom_and_gloom, rok temu (edited rok temu) do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

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TheBroodian, rok temu

Surely there’s an instance somewhere of the government suing itself phoenix-think

Gradually_Adjusting, rok temu do games w 'The gold rush is over:' Slay the Spire and Darkest Dungeon devs say that big Game Pass and Epic exclusive deals have dried up for indie devs

Hawkish monetary policy has a way of making it hard to turn a profit on long horizon projects.

wccrawford, rok temu do gaming w So, looks like Putin's ordered the Russian government to 'consider the issue of organising' domestic versions of the Steam Deck, SteamOS, and Steam itself (with a side order of Steam Machines)

Oh wow. I can’t wait to watch that shit show play out.

mindbleach, rok temu do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

People don’t drink because vodka tastes good, assholes. “You’re still playing!” is not proof of enjoyment.

MeetInPotatoes, rok temu do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

This is the same as Trump saying he was just challenging the results of the election.

Namely, nobody is trying to prosecute him for his legal challenges…and nobody is complaining that games are too entertaining. They are bold strawman arguments that most people see through immediately. “Complete bullshit” is now a common argumentative tactic.