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rozodru, do games w Resident Evil 0 and Resident Evil Remaster, now on GOG
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I don’t care what anyone says RE0 is still my favourite in the series.

mushroomman_toad, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

IP block sounds like an infringement of the license given to early minecraft buyers

RiikkaTheIcePrincess, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

(Severe sarcasm warning. Look away if you’re allergic.)

I like that they effectively compared themselves getting an email to people getting arrested for totally innocent social media posts about nothing in particular, which we can all assume is the case without looking into at all. I also like that they’re asking for widespread outrage against this, and want a person’s name to attack converse sincerely with in the Free Marketplace of Ideas™. Such a good, honest person we can definitely trust implicitly, trying to protect Freeze Peach™ from Woke™ Left-Wing™ tyrants like Microsoft.

Maybe “like” is the wrong word. Hmmm.

[Not sarcasm] Right, we know what’s going on here. Gross, cruel, hateful people just wanna have endless “rights” over everyone else and I’m so sick of their games I can hardly even type a non-sarcastic sentence. Ugh. Bleh. Et cetera. 🙄

i_am_not_a_robot,

What Microsoft is doing with Minecraft should be illegal. After they purchased Minecraft from Mojang, they started changing the rules so instead of being a game you have purchased and you play with your friends how you want to play it, it’s a game that you have a temporary license to use in a way that Microsoft thinks is appropriate for small children, even if you are hosting your own private server like these people are doing. Microsoft doesn’t like the way that these people are playing the game and talking outside the game, so they are taking the game away. You may not like these people because they sound like the kind of people that use “free speech” as an excuse for hate speech, but would it be the same if Microsoft were taking away the game from servers that allowed people to specify their pronouns or use different color combinations associated with LGBTQ representation, which they may soon be pressured to do by the government of the country they are headquartered in?

PiraHxCx,
@PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml avatar

Self-hosted private server, just like a lemmy instance, one joins out of their own will. Imagine mega corporations being able to decide what is acceptable on your lemmy instance and take it down if they don’t like it?

curbstickle,

If you were in violation of lemmy’s terms of use, yeah…

They aren’t using their own software here.

PiraHxCx, (edited )
@PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml avatar

"if you were in violation of lemmy’s terms of use, yeah…” wait, is there a central lemmy that can nuke other instances? I thought the whole point of the Fediverse was that if you don’t like an instance, you just defederate from it, and that there was no central power.

Yeah, we used to own the software we bought and could do whatever we wanted with it on our private storage, but now capitalism has realized it’s more lucrative to only sell licenses. Imagine Microsoft/Apple/Google erasing your privately stored documents tomorrow because they contained stuff against their policies. Very dangerous when you have governments banning abortion, trans rights, and even labeling antifascism as terrorism.

I can’t believe the number of people thinking trillion dollar mega corporations overreach is good just because it’s happening to others. Tomorrow, it’s you - that’s why we need more consumer rights and privacy protection, but the thing about rights is that they are for everyone and not just for the people you pick.

curbstickle,

is there a central lemmy that can nuke other instances?

There is a legal process. Violating the AGPL that Lemmy is released under, for example.

Edited to add “Not letting me use slurs is a slippery slope to blocking positive lgbtqia statements” is an insane take, BTW.

The answer is simple - dont use their shit or abide by their terms. No, the intolerant do not gain any advantage with me by trying to cover with “freedom of speech” or “but what if they do it to trans folks?!?”

These are the people denigrating others, and while using a licensed piece of software too. Guess what - its under their licensing, thats their mistake. They can also stop being cool with having a Nazi bar.

PiraHxCx,
@PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t think AGPLv3 license would prevent someone from opening a nazi bar lemmy though…

curbstickle,

It would not.

I don’t believe it said it would not either.

I said if it was in violation of the established terms.

KAtieTot, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

Minecraft is actually a spiritual successor to a mid 1940s board game entitled MeineCraft.

The original Minecraft creator, Notch, has long looked up to the author of the original and particularly idolizes the 34th Revision of the popular game.

For more information google Notch Hitler R34

PiraHxCx, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft
@PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml avatar

Tomorrow, to conform to the new regime, Microsoft starts to shut down private servers with mentions to LGBT and Antifa.
If you don’t stand up for free speech when its idiots using slurs, there will be no one left to stand up for you tomorrow when its your speech under attack.

belated_frog_pants,
30p87, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft
@30p87@feddit.org avatar

TL;DR: Fascists fucking over (mostly) fascists. How about we sit back, watch, learn and switch to alternatives (Luanti), or at least offline/cracked Minecraft?

ordnance_qf_17_pounder, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

I hate Microsoft but I also hate self-described “Libertarians” complaining about free speech because it usually means they want to spam slurs and white supremacist bullshit without pushback.

gnawmon,
@gnawmon@ttrpg.network avatar

I replied to a comment like this somewhere else, so I’ll just paste this here

Take this with a grain of salt, as I’m a commoner on the server.

While freedom of speech means you can yell whatever racial slurs you want, it doesn’t mean you are free from consequences. When you start saying bigoted stuff on the chat, you will be targeted by players and get /ignore’d.

I would advise you to make your own judgement by reading the chat logs on Discord or IRC, but not everybody has that amount of time. Some people said vile stuff here, but every time someone says some weird stuff, it always gets backlash, and it definitely isn’t a nazi breeding ground.

Also I’ll add this, Most of the server staff and community are queer and from different backgrounds, slurs aren’t taken kindly here.

Robaque,

So are we talking rothbardian libertarianism or libertarian socialism?

TehPers,

While freedom of speech means you can yell whatever racial slurs you want, it doesn’t mean you are free from consequences.

This seems to be the MS stance as well, and they seem unwilling to associate with that kind of speech, so they want to cut that connection off as a consequence.

MS isn’t telling them not to speak. MS is telling them to take their speech somewhere else.

Psionicsickness,

Microsoft is also cool with their IPs being used to promote ICE. So I don’t know how much water your argument holds…

hodgepodgin, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

When will Microsoft care about all the P2W servers that get kids addicted to gambling

Cantaloupe877, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

Microsoft bring a middle man for player hosted servers is something that should never have happened.

TehPers, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

If you want to say what you want, go ahead. Nobody is required to host that speech or allow that speech to be hosted on their platform or software.

MS is attacking free speech here in the same way that a moderator attacks free speech blocking a Lemmy server. Nobody’s saying you can’t use a modded client to connect to their server if they self-host it, but they’re defederating on the main client because they want no association with it.

Kolanaki,
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This is more like if a Reddit mod came over here to Lemmy and tried to delete this comment.

Kolanaki, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

If it’s one of the oldest ones, I assume it’s for Java, which means it’s entirely run by the server operator and not one of those shitty 3rd party hosted servers you can rent out from within Bedrock.

I don’t remember ever seeing anything about how you need to run a server of your own in compliance with Mojang’s rules in the EULA or TOS.

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