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kbal, do gaming w Am I the only person that feels that retro games are better?
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The one time I've asked for a refund on steam was when I mistakenly bought the remastered instead of the original version of an old game I wanted, and found that it had been ruined by the addition of a (not easy to bypass and wouldn't run under wine) "launcher" that was there for the sole purpose of getting you to register an account and log in so they could collect whatever data they wanted.

AstralPath, do gaming w Am I the only person that feels that retro games are better?

I’d say that in my experience, retro games or games with a retro design philosophy tend to be more enjoyable and replayable. The nostalgia helps with that, but I think a big part of it is never having to tinker with graphics settings or anything technical. You just boot it up and play.

I’d personally consider anything older than 2005 to be a retro game (or at least retro-adjacent) in my library. It feels like around that time there was a major shift in how games were made; some really benefiting from the new design philosophies but many falling very short of their hype and ultimate goals.

For me the biggest problem with modern games is the obsession with high fidelity graphics. The dev teams that create games without a focus on photo-realism or jaw dropping visuals are often the teams creating the best games in my eyes. See Heart Machine, ConcernedApe, Polytron, Ludeon Studios, Maddy Makes Games, etc…

Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty of good modern games. The retro design philosophy just resonates much stronger with me when I just wanna sit down and enjoy something. Shoutout to Maxis for making SimCity 4, that game is sucking up the hours lately. lol

MudMan,

Maybe it's me being old, but I've been hearing "the problem with modern games is they put graphics over gameplay" since 1991.

tal,
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I’d say that in my experience, retro games or games with a retro design philosophy tend to be more enjoyable and replayable.

I don’t like chiptune music, where music is designed to sound like it’s being played on an old console’s frequency synthesizer.

I think that there are some good arguments for low-resolution pixel art in terms of reducing asset cost while still having a playable game – the brain is good at filling details in. But I don’t think that that applies to music, that there are good cost trade-offs.

And while I don’t have a problem with low-resolution pixel art graphics, I do have to say that for some of the successful games that I’ve played with it, I’d really like to be able to buy an HD graphics pack. I’m kind of surprised by how infrequently it is that I’ve seen game devs do that. Cave Story did it. I’d like to see some games like Caves of Qud have HD DLC.

AstralPath,

See Hyper Light Drifter for a retro-style game with an unbelievably deep soundtrack. Fez also has an amazing soundtrack. Both are nods to chiptune but with incredibly modern production techniques.

frog,

For me the biggest problem with modern games is the obsession with high fidelity graphics. The dev teams that create games without a focus on photo-realism or jaw dropping visuals are often the teams creating the best games in my eyes.

I think this is very much down to personal taste. While I don’t think a great game needs photo-realistic graphics, for me a game’s graphics do factor into my enjoyment of it, so it should at least feel like the devs put some effort into making the game visually appealing. That could be focusing on making the graphics beautiful, or stylised and quirky, or just incredibly cute. But if I’m gonna spend hours looking at something, I want it to look nice.

simple, do gaming w Am I the only person that feels that retro games are better?

People that have this opinion often only play AAA games. There are a lot of indie games that channel old-school game energy and improve upon them. Shovel Knight for example is a lot better than old platformers wish they were. A Hat in Time is a ton of fun compared to the vast majority of PS2/Gamecube 3D platformers. Hollow Knight is better than any Metroid game (I know a lot of people would disagree, though).

Feyd,

Hollow Knight is pretty different than metroid games and I’m not sure I’d directly compare them. I’m the only person I know that doesn’t like Hollow Knight and it seems like the departures it makes from the classic metroidvania formula that put me off it are part of the reason other people like it

MudMan,

Nah, you have a point. There are a bunch of "2D soulslikes" that get advertised as "Metroidvanias", and I wish we had better language to split that difference, because there's a big conceptual shift between the "parry and dodge" souls style and the genuine Metroid/Castlevania style of movement and aggression. It feels very different and honestly the last time something scratched that itch it was Bloodstained.

So yeah, Hollow Kinght is a very well made game, but it's not what I'm looking for every time I fire up one of the DSvanias for yet another run.

sleepybisexual,

I play indies too :3 (well try to, switch games don’t appeal much to me)

I wonder if you find older indie games

eezeebee,
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I loved A Hat in Time. I grew up in that golden age of platformers and Hat definitely stands up in quality to those.

Glide, (edited )

Cassette Beasts kicks the ever loving shit out of Pokemon across the board, modern or retro.

Retro games weren’t better than modern games as a “full-stop” statement. They tended to be bug-ridden messes, but there was still a heart and soul behind them that tends to be missing in the AAA industry. Continuing on the Pokemon example Red/Blue were an absolute mess. I mean, moves and items that were supposed to massively increase critical hit rate massively decreased them instead. Stat calculations were all over the place. Hell, the ghost-psychic interaction just straight didn’t function as intended. It was a mess, and yet for some reason, it’s touted as “better” than the modern Pokemon games.

Plus, not all big studio games are soulless cash grabs of releases, either. Hi-Fi Rush is my favorite game of 2023 by a huge margin, and was a Bethesda published game. Sure, the dev studio was “smaller” compared to Ubisoft or Activison, but I wouldn’t call the game indie - it was AAA in polish and scale. I’m currently really enjoying Unicorn Overlord, getting major Ogre Battle 64 vibes from it, and playing a lot of Monster Hunter Rise thanks to a Steam sale. These games slap, and have all the depth and passion of games of old without alI of the horrible jank we dealt with in the pre-internet “no such thing as a post-release patch” world.

It’s easy to see the yearly Call of Duty, Pokemon, generic EA sports, and obligatory Ubisoft open world games release and think “man, AAA gaming sucks”, but they’re honestly a very tiny portion of the conversation.

EDIT: I take everything back, Bethesda just closed the studio that made Hi-Fi Rush. AAA gaming is a cancer that needs to be surgically extracted.

comicallycluttered,

Cassette Beasts was a real treat. I’ll be finding it very difficult to go back to other monster taming games after playing that.

JoMomma, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?

Fallout Cascadia

Sunny,
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Cool project! I’ll check it out when it release :P

For everyone else curious; www.falloutcascadia.com/faq

urda,
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Very cool!

mynachmadarch, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?

If you're cool with lower poly graphics, ADACA was recently recommended to me. Haven't tried it yet but looks to be set in Pacific Northwest.

Sunny,
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hell yeah, this looks really cool! thanks for sharing :)

TheLightItBurns, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?

Infamous Second Son and the expansion pack take place in Seattle.

Malix, do gaming w Am I the only person that feels that retro games are better?
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while all of those qualities are great, they alone don’t make game great.

sleepybisexual,

Yea, but the SNES in particular has an amazing library, I love super sf2

Malix,
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I haven’t played many SNES games, but the ones I have have been pretty good. Fairly sure there’s quite a bit of stinkers in there too.

warm,

But they are a requirement.

all-knight-party, do gaming w Am I the only person that feels that retro games are better?
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Depends on taste. I love mechanical depth and systems on systems and depending on how retro you're talking most games older than, say early 2000s ish just don't often have that

sleepybisexual,

Deep games are fun :3

My olnybissue with retro games is the lack if good open worlds

barcaxavi, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?

The Long Dark

Sunny,
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Ah yeah a classic! Played it a while back, should maybe replay it again :)

NoIWontPickAName,

Get the dlc, it’s 100% worth it, even the stuff they added for non-dlc users is pretty awesome

Sunny,
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noted!

Corvid, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?

Alan Wake

Sunny,
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Didnt know this was set in Pacific Nortwest! Cool!

inb4_FoundTheVegan,
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The advertisements for the game didn’t mention it at all. But as soon as the game starts I was like “Wait is this Whidby Island”?

Which actually kind of backfired on me since for work I had to regularly drive through Whidby late at night. Some of the games monsters were hard not to think about alone at 3 AM. 😂

mynachmadarch,

Just bring a couple extra flashlights, and maybe a light switch and you'll be fine.

BowtiesAreCool,

Technically it’s set in Washington, but fictional Bright Falls is based on Snoqualmie WA, North Bend WA (similar to Twin Peaks) and then also Crater Lake OR

inb4_FoundTheVegan,
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If that’s what the devs said, sure. But the game does literally start with you taking a ferry to an island which always see very whidby/orcas/san juan.

But I’ll admit to my bias, I was driving through whidby at night on a regular basis when I played the game so they always seemed linked to me.

BowtiesAreCool,

Oh I’m sure that was a direct lift, there’s a ton of specific buildings and areas around that are straight outta twin peaks too.

Elkenders, do gaming w Interactive Loading Screens - High Hell

Not saying this is a good one but Splatoon on switch you manipulate the music speed and pitch with the analogue sticks.

Kissaki,

Speed sounds fun

eezeebee, (edited ) do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of May 5th
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Still playing Shining Force 2, almost at the end. I read somewhere that Peter is the real main character and kind of agree.

I also started playing Sonic Adventure 2 because it looked cool and was less than $2, and omg, it might be the worst game I’ve ever played. I looked it up and it apparently was rushed, had a small team, and was made during a turbulent time at Sega. But it’s just bad. The controls are garbage, camera is even worse and sometimes does not let you move it to see where you’re going. The dialogue is thrown together poorly so the characters are often talking over each other in cutscenes. It’s a shame too because I can see the wasted potential. At least the chill Knuckles levels are still fun to play, and the music is memorable. I really hope the “Dark” path is better than the “Hero” path.

Spacemanspliff, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?

Days gone

Sunny,
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I do like me some apocalypse. Thanks 😁

TheLightItBurns,

I just finished Days Gone earlier this week, and that game was solid. I wish I played it sooner.

Spacemanspliff,

I slept on it for a real real long time, had it in my library for like a year before I got around to it. Ended up getting platinum on it my first playthrough I liked it so much.

MurrayL, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?

Lake

Sunny,
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Looks like a very charming and relaxing game indeed! Ill add it to my wish list :) In case anyone else wants to check it out --> store.steampowered.com/app/1118240/Lake/

VaultBoyNewVegas,

It is a chill game. Basically you deliver mail every day to NPCs and have conversations with them. That’s basically it but I really enjoyed it.

slazer2au, do games w Recommendations for Pacific Northwest Themed Games?
Sunny,
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Good suggestion, already played though, twice in fact 😅

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