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tk, do cycling
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Whether or not disc brakes are “better” than rim brakes, disc brakes definitely require less skill to use effectively in more conditions.

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nothingfuture,
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@tk @cycling @mastobikes I’ll concede that there are applications where disc brakes-specifically hydraulic- are better than rim brakes. But those situations are, I think, wildly overstated, and usually far outside the use-cases of the vast majority of cyclists.

nothingfuture,
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@mhoye @tk @cycling @mastobikes
I came up riding tandems with sketchy canti brakes in hills, and- it was ok? We adjusted our riding to braking power.
On a road bike, I’ve never felt I needed discs. And I rode canti’s on mtbs all through the 80’s/90’s and into the early 00’s. They were fine. Until you were riding DH courses.
Are discs better? Sure. Good hydro discs have immense amounts of power. Were rim brakes enough? Yeah. Most of the time.

nothingfuture,
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@v_perjorative @tk @cycling @mastobikes To be clear- I’m not saying discs are bad or whatever. I’m saying that most of the time, for many, many people, they’re overkill.
Some people seem to feel that discs are necessary for a bike to be safe; that is very rarely the actual case.

nothingfuture,
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@hughtaylorscifi @LabSpokane @v_perjorative @cycling @mastobikes Stopping distance is primarily determined by the friction between the tires and the ground (assuming the brakes are capable of producing enough power to lock up a wheel). Beyond that, rider skill at applying maximum braking force to the front wheel determines minimum stopping distance.
Learning how to stop as quickly as possible is a learned skill.

nothingfuture,
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@LabSpokane @hughtaylorscifi @v_perjorative @cycling @mastobikes maybe, but it’s almost certainly an effect of rider modulation of those braking systems (and not a result of the power of those braking systems). Unless we’re talking about very unusual circumstances (extremely high speed, carbon rims with rim brakes, wet, etc).
Once a brake has sufficient power to lock a wheel, the limiting factor has to be tire/road friction.

schizanon, do cycling angielski
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nothingfuture,
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Most overrated? Carbon. It’s brittle, has a really unfavorable failure mode, and can’t be recycled at end of life.

Aero-everything. Just like being obsessed with a bike’s weight, aero on the bike is marginal gains for most people, and it has really negative effects on the feel/comfort of those bikes too.

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