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echodot, do games w Indie game developers have a new sales pitch: being ‘AI free’

I feel like you have never actually developed a game. Because what you’re arguing is just weird. It makes no logical sense.

A grey box is the very most basic of what a game will ever be, it never bears any resemblance to the finished product. It is the basis most fundamental interpretation of game mechanics and systems. The gray box has no bearing on the final result of the game.

No grey box contains any aspect of artistic intent, the art team are never even involved in its creation it’s always just developers doing things. Go look up some game blogs.

echodot, do games w Indie game developers have a new sales pitch: being ‘AI free’

That’s my point. These random definitions of AI that have been come up with by the most pedantic people in existence are not in any way helpful. We should ignore them.

They seek to redefine AI as basically anything that a computer does. This is entirely unhealthful and is only happening because they need to be right on the internet.

These irritating idiots need to go away for they serve no purpose.

echodot, do games w Indie game developers have a new sales pitch: being ‘AI free’

The AI label needs to be present if the finished product contains AI generated assets. So AI generated code, or AI generated art.

In the example above you grey boxed in AI but then replaced all the assets with ones that humans made. There is no distinction there between doing that and just having literal grey boxes.

You couldn’t require an AI label in that scenario because it would be utterly unenforceable. How would a developer prove if they did or did not use AI for temporary art?

So yes you can draw a line. Does the finished product contain AI generated assets. You don’t like that definition because you’re being pedantic but your pedantry interpretation isn’t enforceable, so it’s useless.

echodot, do games w Indie game developers have a new sales pitch: being ‘AI free’

By that definition a calculator is AI.

echodot, do games w Indie game developers have a new sales pitch: being ‘AI free’

Emmet has been around since 2015. So it was definitely not LLM backed.

echodot, do games w Indie game developers have a new sales pitch: being ‘AI free’

No because AI replaces a human role.

Code completion does not replace a human role, that’s like saying that spell check is AI.

echodot, do games w Indie game developers have a new sales pitch: being ‘AI free’

Since you would never see it that’s pretty much irrelevant. Clearly this is about AI generated art and AI generated assets

Whether or not you use AI to grey box something is a pointless distinction given the fact that there’s no way to prove it one way or the other.

echodot, do games w Indie game developers have a new sales pitch: being ‘AI free’

I’m sure everyone has always explained this to you given the number of down votes, but algorithms aren’t equal to AI.

Ever since the evolution of AI people seem to have lost the ability to recall things prior to 2019.

echodot, do gaming w It feels good to support

There’s a Star Trek Voyager game out at the moment which is basically what Starfield should have been, but set in the Star Trek universe.

I think the big problem Starfield has is that it tries to be really big, but they don’t really have that much content so it’s just all spread out. While at the same time you don’t actually get to feel that bigness because moving between locations is just a loading screen. You don’t get the long quiet sections like you do in something like Elite Dangerous. So they made a really big, really spread out world, with fast travel, it’s the most pointless game ever made.

echodot, do gaming w It feels good to support

You mean the game will only show up in the list of games that are available on sale if the games are actually in the sale? Because that’s just literally how that works

echodot, do gaming w It feels good to support

I’m pretty sure there’s actually an EU law that says that you’re not allowed to do that. If a product is on discount more or less forever then it’s not in fact on discount.

There is a maximum amount of time a product can be on sale before that becomes just what price is now.

echodot, do games w Valve Addresses Steam Machine Anti-Cheat Concerns, Says It's Working Towards Support

Well yeah of course it’s optional already. If you don’t want that then you just don’t buy those games.

echodot, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

It’s not a 4K capable graphics card though it’s a 1080p capable graphics card that they’re saying is 4K because of the existence of AI upscaling which I think is a cheat. So you’re already overestimating the cards capability.

echodot, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

It depends on how many Valve I’ve already manufactured. If they were smart they’ll be quietly manufacturing these and only just now announced it. You don’t announce a product until you’ve got some units sitting in a warehouse somewhere, or else a competitor might see the opportunity to make things difficult for you.

echodot, do games w Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’

An equivalent PC would have a full fat non-mobile graphics card. They keep trying to claim it’ll do 60 FPS at 4K with AI upscaling. Which is the same as saying it’ll do 60 FPS at 1080p.

This would be a compelling product as a console, the PC capable parts are a nice bonus but no one’s going to be buying this to be their primary computer unless they are going to replace a potato.

Regardless of what the market is doing if it’s anything more than $700 it’ll flop. Which would be an incredible shame but it is what it is. No one is going to pay $1,000 for a PC that cannot be upgraded.

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