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scrubbles, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
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I mean, there isn’t one thing you can point to and say “ah ha that’s causing all teh lag”, things just take up more space, more compute power, more memory as it grows. As hardware capabilities grow software will find a way to utilize it. But if you want a few things

  • Textures are larger, where 4k was just getting rolling in 2017 (pre RDR2 after all), to accomodate 4K textures had to be scaled up (and remember width and height, so that’s 4x the memory and 4x the space on drive)
  • Engines have generally grown to be more high fidelity including more particles, more fog, (not in Starfield but Raytracing, which is younger than 2017), etc. All of these higher fidelity items require more computer power. Things like anti-aliasing for example, they’re always something like 8x, but that’s 8x the resolution, which the resolutions have only gone up, again rising with time.

I don’t know what do you want? Like a list of everything that’s happened from then? Entire engines have come and gone in that time. Engines we used back then we’re on at least a new version compared to then, Starfield included. I mean I don’t understand what you’re asking, because to me it comes off as “Yeah well Unreal 5 has the same settings as 4 to me, so it’s basically the same”

scrubbles, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
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4090 is definitely nuts, but with inflation the 4080 is right about on par. As usual team red very close in comparison for a much lower cost. You don’t have to constantly run the highest of the high level to get those sweet graphics, but it’s about personal taste. Personally it’s not for me paying the 40% more for a 10% jump in graphics, but every 2-3 generations is when I usually step back and reanalyze. Tbh usually it’s a game like starfield that makes me think if I should get a new one. Runs great for now though, probably have at least 1 hopefully 2 more generations before I upgrade again

scrubbles, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
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This is a great way to view it, and I think you’re getting excellent specs for that card. Kudos to you for getting it running !

scrubbles, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
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Doom eternal also came out 3.5 years ago now, and your card is nearly 5 years old. That’s the performance I would expect from a card that is that old playing a brand new game that was meant to be a stretch.

I’m sorry, but this is how PC gaming works. Brand new cards are really only awesome for about a year, then good for a few years after that, then you start getting some new releases that make you think it’s about time. I’ve had the 3000 series, the 1000 series, before that I was an ATI guy with some sapphire, and before that the ATI 5000 series. It’s just how it goes in PC gaming, this is nothing new

scrubbles, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
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I’m not saying it’s not an expensive hobby, it is. PC gaming on ultra is an incredibly expensive hobby. But that’s the price of the hobby. Saying that a game isn’t optimized because it doesn’t run ultra settings on hardware that came out 4+ years ago is nothing new, and to me it’s a weird thing to demand. If you want ultra, you pay for ultra prices. If you don’t want to/can’t, that’s 100% acceptable, but then just be content to play on High settings, maybe 1080p.

If PC gaming is too expensive in general that’s why consoles exist. You get a pretty great experience on a piece of hardware that’s only a few hundred dollars.

scrubbles, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
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Runs great on my 5000 series AMD CPU and 3000 series Nvidia GPU, those came out 2 years ago now, and that’s averaging about 50fps on a 4k monitor.

If that isn’t optimized, idk what is. Yes, I had high end stuff from 2 years ago, but now it’s solid middle range.

People are so damn entitled. There used to be a time in PC gaming where if you were more than a year out of date you’d have to scale it down to windows 640x480. If you want “ultra” settings you need an “ultra” PC, which means flipping out parts every few years. Otherwise be content with High settings at 1080p, a very valid option

scrubbles, do gaming w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance
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I actually really like what starfield does. It’s a rolling scale, the more encumbered you are the more you have to pause and “recharge” O2. So being over by 2 won’t affect you a lot, but over by 100 sure will

scrubbles, do games w Starfield players pirate the DLSS mod after the developer locks it behind paywall
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I’m not asking for free labor, it’s a mod, by definition I don’t need it. It’s a modification of a game. If I’m going to give anyone money it’ll be the creators of the game itself, they deserve my money. Not the person hacking the game a bit. If they want to, awesome, I’ll clone it and add the mod, but if they want to charge, well, I’ve never seen a mod I needed so badly that I’d pay for it.

scrubbles, do games w Starfield players pirate the DLSS mod after the developer locks it behind paywall
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I’d agree with you if this was the full game but it’s a mod. I think it’s ridiculous to ask for money for a mod with a couple of exceptions:

  • You took a commission from someone who wanted something specific
  • you are making a whole new game like Skyblivion
  • it is going to be packaged up and resold by someone else like Bethesda selling a new version of skyrim
scrubbles, do gaming w Hi, I'm A Stupid Person Who Gets Mad At Review Scores
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Beautiful. I’m playing it now and gotta say, I hate everyone who has talked about it up until now. From the die-hard fanboys who say it has to be the best game ever created, to the anti-bethesda circlejerkers who roam every gaming community telling people how it’s a terrible game even though they have not played it.

I’m tired of everyone and their opinions about gaming. I bought it with mid expectations, and I am happy with my purchase.

scrubbles, do gaming w Starfield's planets aren't all interesting, but they're not all "supposed to be Disney World"
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Honestly, avoid Lemmy and Reddit for reviews on this game. The absolute vitriol it’s gotten here has just pushed me beyond trusting any of them. (and yes, they all end with “I mean I haven’t played it.”)

I have played it. 8 hours in so far, it’s fun. I won’t say it’s “redefining RPGs” for me or anything, but I’m having a good time playing around. To others here on Lemmy I am now the worst person on the planet.

scrubbles, do gaming w CDPR Blames Lack Of Cyberpunk 2077 DLC On Move To Unreal
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I’ve heard the deck is a surprisingly good system from it. The GTX1660 may be stretched a little thin. I heard people with 2000+ had good experiences, but not from below. But that was also at launch, it’s improved since then

scrubbles, do gaming w CDPR Blames Lack Of Cyberpunk 2077 DLC On Move To Unreal
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If you have a good oc it’s stable. Tbh I didn’t know what the fuss was about day one, I had a great experience. Then I learned it’s because red engine was horribly optimized and I just had enough power for it. (I had been saving for a new PC just for cyberpunk)

scrubbles, do gaming w Starfield review controversy traces game journalism's orbital decay
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Even gollum, by far the buggiest and most boring AAA game to come out in a few years was given a 64% by pc gamer. At least gamespot was honest and gave them a 2/10

scrubbles, do games w [MEGATHREAD] Starfield - Your experiences!
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Agreed, there’s a couple comments of actually thoughtful replies but the vast majority is booo Bethesda bad because Bethesda.

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