“In the real world, we learn to control desire, postpone needs, and resist temptation. This lesson also applies to the digital world. Stealing is wrong and punishable,” it adds.
Yeah these chumps are total tools that’ll just boost piracy even more. How do you fail this hard at talking to kids? If you tell a teen to “postpone needs,” you don’t deserve to be around teens.
“In the real world, we learn to control desire, postpone needs, and resist temptation. This lesson also applies to the digital world. Stealing is wrong and punishable,”
“None of this, of course, need apply to the ruling class, who lives entirely to sprint ever faster on the hedonic treadmill, demand the planet burn faster for profit, and indulge every possible temptation no matter how cruel or inhuman.” lord-bezos-amused
I would love to see what actual academics in this field have to say about course material for children that equates copyright infringement with theft. I imagine it wouldn’t be good.
Having a few comments on record about this issue might help steer schools away from adopting it.
Yeah this is a definition of “theft” that doesn’t really work at all with the commonly used one.
Like, if you download a torrent, it was uploaded by someone else, willingly. If they bought a DVD and handed it to a friend, that friend wouldn’t be stealing the DVD. But now, if they upload the file to the internet for other people to watch, this class is calling that theft.
Its the kind of “theft” that leaves no victims. The alleged “victim” isn’t the person from whom the content was downloaded, no, it’s the third party who originally sold that person the product in the first place.
The whole concept isn’t logically consistent, but the corporations wrote the laws and get to decide how they are enforced and what they mean so it doesn’t matter that the law makes no sense and is punishing people for “crimes” that are, at their very core, victimless.
McGruffy the Anti-Piracy Crime dog asks you a question, “You wouldn’t download a car, would you?”.
This will turn out just as well as the DARE program did, it will only inspire kids into researching more about pirating. As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
It’s targeted at teenagers; you can bet that these little contrarian assholes will fire up a torrent client right after the first lesson. And what’s more, they’ll even educate them on malwares! Big win for piracy in Denmark 🤓
In the U.S. circa 2016, so many kids were just finding pirate streaming sites for movies and such during class on school computers. I imagine it’s similar elsewhere for students who’ve finished their work and are bored, but boy, now they have the knowledge of how to get countless other types of media for free.
Piracy is a service problem. The goal shouldn’t be to indoctrinate our youth to avoid it, it should be to stop releasing subpar, overpriced products.
By understanding the motivations of today’s youth, the anti-piracy group hopes to be in a better position to influence their behavior.
I pirate because I don’t get paid the full value of my labor. Pay me more and I’ll buy more goods and services. It’s also more convenient to have everything in one place.
AND offer good stuff! AND make it actually convenient and worth the money. A single streaming service at $15 a month, no more, that has all the “exclusives”, be it Stranger Things, The Mandalorian, or Rings of Power (okay, maybe not that last piece of garbage). Then I would consider paying, and only if it is truly more convenient and offers better quality with less buffering than pirate streaming. Until then, it’s a pirate’s life for me.
Exactly. I've only ever pirated things I couldn't afford, and even then I kept a running list of the good ones in the hopes that one day I could pay them legitimately. When I can afford to buy them fairly, I don't pirate.
I was a thief when I was starving and I'm a damn thief now.
The other annoying thing is that "owning" something is getting to be non-existent anymore. Sure, I can "buy" all the seasons of Supernatural from iTunes. But I only "own" the show for was long as I have my iTunes subscription, and iTunes has the rights to show it, and I have internet service with enough bandwidth to stream it, and I'm not under a bandwidth cap or some other restriction.
Or I can grab a copy and it'll happily live on my hard drive forever, no need to worry about subscriptions or streaming rights or bandwidth limitations.
Tell me: in which of those scenarios do I actually "own" the series?
That's what's messed up about data, is technically the answer to your question is neither! What happens to your ownership of those downloads when your hard drive with no backup does? In that sense, a license tied to should be the safest method, but it's far from it thanks to our current practices.
But I agree with you of course, our control of our files on our hard drives indicate that we have more ownership over them.
Personally, the one thing the U.S. somewhat has right so far is we are somewhat legally allowed to format shift (within reason, stupidly but alas). Currently I can purchase any Nintendo game, decide I do not want to play it on any Nintendo console and it's within my rights to do everything short of redistribution to play that software on my PC.
Someone the other day asked if it's "pirating" to acquire a licensed title they purchased on Vudu. In my opinion, no because it's just format shifting - now, the T.O.S. may say otherwise but T.O.S. also isn't law so then it's a different issue. Vudu can say that you are only allowed to play your purchases through their website that harvests your data, which you signed when you created your account.
Still, fuck that noise. If I am purchasing something that means I expect to be able to use it no matter the surrounding circumstances. That means if my Internet is offline I can still view my content. That means if Vudu kicks the bucket I am unaffected.
Until services start giving me this option, I will continue to format shift my content. I store things for posterity and then watch on the service to support them. I want more super hero stories, so I will watch on HBO and D+. I want more IASIP, so I will watch on Hulu. But you damn better be sure I have them backed up for myself because I'm not paying $x/month to watch these forever.
Whether or not its within my rights to format shift this way I don't really care, I am only format shifting because history has shown we cannot trust media to stay online and unedited.
Example: currently made bluray/DVDs of IASIP also remove episodes. Not for me.
So you mean there are all these movies, media, software that I can get for free, when I’m too broke to purchase it or subscribe to it and my parents wont buy it?
It’s like DARE, only that the drugs are actually free this time.
If I was ever a parent of someone being taught anti-piracy lessons in school, I’d have to show him the error of the lessons by showing him the money I’d be saving by pirating and telling him that the money I don’t spend on large companies will in fact not kill them. Gotta set a good example.
Well, let’s see… At my school, smoking was bad. I started smoking. My school taught us that drinking alcohol was very bad. I started drinking with my friends. We learned at school that the USSR was going to attack us with nukes at any moment. So I started doing an annoying impersonation of Boris and Natascha every time we had a “hide under your desk drill” that was quite entertaining. We were warned in social studies class about the dangers of using fireworks and cherry bombs. My friends and I were on the constant hunt of old cherry bombs. Ronald Reagan’s administration started a physical fitness program that gave awards to kids that passed a certain test in gym glass. A lot of us didn’t try hard on purpose because it looked silly and many of us, to our shock, still won the award because it was too easy. So, perhaps the schools are creating a whole new generation of super pirates. Some of those kids probably don’t even know what pirating is. They’ll find out now. And don’t forget, boys and girls, ketchup is a vegetable. If ketchup is a vegetable, relish is, too. So make sure you eat up all your relish we give you at lunch time, with some ketchup on top.
I tell kids these days they are totally in one of those YAF novels where the teachers and ministers and testers (and even parents) are all in on the plot to force you through a doughboy program that turns you into an interchangeable, disposable, replaceable soldier or laborer to be exploited and discarded in some billionaire’s vanity project, all the while the world is covered in plastic residue and is liberally burning.
IP maximalist indoctrination feels entirely on par, especially considering how disengagement is a far greater threat to media industries than piracy.
Incidentally, IP infringement, including copyright infringement is never theft. Cheating creators and developers of a fair share of the profits, however, is theft.
This is a huge win for piracy. You can’t image how many kids these days don’t know about piracy. They share account passwords, and split the costs to stream legally, up until the password sharing crackdown. Now, imagine what would happen if you inform them that these evil pirates get everything for free, without geo-blocking, without multiple services to get everything you want, and even pre-release. And inform them to be careful about malware. Man, they gonna research piracy and how to avoid malware in their free time and enjoy piracy to the fullest. Rights Alliance trains the new generation of pirates in Denmark.
At the same time, what is also unethical is publishers, record labels, exploiting people!
We should have seminars and more talking about copyright, correct licensing, enforcement and copyleft concepts, to ensure they don’t get cheated by such entities in the future
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