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livus, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
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Me too.

jwr1, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
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kbin.social is also showing 404 for me at /sub. https://kbin.social/*/sub still seems to be working though.

originalucifer, w kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
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what is it supposed to show?

Facni,

It used to show threads and posts from your subscriptions.

originalucifer,
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hey look at that! it works on my instance. not sure whats goin on over there. bad nginx route/config.

maybe theyre upgrading something

static, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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xz was successful because it was believable, but a malicious actor would more likely target libraries that are depended on by many, like xz.

wjrii, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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Yes, there is some similarity. You're not wrong.

However, it's much more likely to be due to the common experience of solo devs whose projects blow up than it is about bad actors on kbin.

If you're so inclined, you can always check the profiles of those who were pushing for it and particularly those who were volunteering; the boehs.org link should supply some helpful red flags to look for. Ernest would be wise to check IP activity and even ask for IRL credentials of those he would consider giving any real level of access to. Beyond that, it's firmly in the realm of "mildly interesting."

HarkMahlberg,
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It's not the boeh.org link, but here is a similar timeline of events: https://research.swtch.com/xz-timeline

the_crotch, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

Ernest Adds More Maintainers to Kbin is one of my favorite 80s comedies

cai, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

This is an absurd thread. By collecting together critical comments, and picking back up a loud fight that previously died down over a week ago, you are absolutely adding to any pressure towards our lad in charge.

Touch grass

FfaerieOxide,
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Touch grass

Suck ya mudda

HubertManne, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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its open source. it can and has been forked. he can do what he likes. The call for moderation made sense but code is different. Granted I think he should bring in help for himself but that is for him to decide.

survivalmachine, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

Erm, I thought kbin was open source? Can’t anybody fork it if they have a problem with it? This sounds like a whiny nothingburger.

FfaerieOxide,
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Erm, I thought kbin was open source? Can’t anybody fork it if they have a problem with it? This sounds like a whiny nothingburger.

They can. That's what mbin is.

That's part of why I don't get why people always pressure Ernest to add maintainers.

SharkAttak,
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I said that already, mbin might be good but I didn't like the advertisement.

FfaerieOxide,
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I said that already, mbin might be good but I didn't like the advertisement.

I'm not quite sure what your position is. I am by no means an mbin booster. In fact I find some of the people pushing mbin over kbin (in lieu addition too) jerks about it.

This whole thread has been about the similarities I noticed between comments people made about/to Ernest previously and the sort of comments we later learned led to the xz backdoor.

When I started to read breakdowns about the social engineering behind the xz backdoor I was like, "Waaaaitaminute, I've seen that sort of talk before." I found it notable to point out the similarity and maybe poke around at it.

People decided to use the thread (to my excessive chagrin) to talk shit about kbin and rehash the exact same pressures I was attempting to analyze.

SharkAttak,
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I am by no means an mbin booster.
I didn't mean to say you were, mine was just a side remark.

HarkMahlberg,
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When I started to read breakdowns about the social engineering behind the xz backdoor I was like, "Waaaaitaminute, I've seen that sort of talk before." I found it notable to point out the similarity and maybe poke around at it.

People decided to use the thread (to my excessive chagrin) to talk shit about kbin and rehash the exact same pressures I was attempting to analyze.

It's a shame, because I noticed similar patterns was looking forward to some good discussion about it here. Alas...

tiredofsametab, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

I switched away because kbin seemed stuck and unresponsive to users and uncommunicative. Changes that were made seemed to be ones the Ernest wanted to and not addressing issues that people were feeling in some cases.

I am a software developer for a living and I can tell you that you can both have more people contributing and be secure. Most projects do not have bad actors who successfully poison things. When someone does, they get caught in the review process. If this is your concern, then prove that Ernest himself isn't a bad actor? I don't believe he is, but being one person in control would certainly make that easy.

Pamasich, w Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

I don't know what this xz thing is about, first time hearing it. But people saying he should get more help are trying to help him, not having malicious plans like installing backdoors or whatever.

I do think people should ask less for more maintainers — the project is already opensource, so it's up to maintainers to join, not him to seek them out. But he should still get some help with managing the instance. Pauses in development are fine imo, but the instance shouldn't be swarmed with spam and account deletion requests lost in limbo just because ernest got sick or something, which can happen with the best work life balances.

FfaerieOxide,
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I don't know what this xz thing is about, first time hearing it.

Someone pressured the maintainer of a compression tool used in a bunch of open source software to hand over the keys by citing burnout and offering to "help" then spent ~3 years slowly adding tiny changes that combined to form a backdoor in SSH that nearly compromised the entire internet or something.

It was only barely caught by accident because it made some thing some guy was doing that wasn't even related a fraction of a second slower.

Been all over the FOSSiverse for days, and the social engineering that was used on the xz maintainer reminded me personally of similar pressure certain people have applied to Ernest in most threads about kbin performance I have seen.

FaceDeer,
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The reason it worked is because sometimes burnout is a real problem, and getting extra help is a real solution. The fact that this was exploited in one situation doesn't mean that all of a sudden there isn't any real burnout or genuine offers to help any more.

A project can sometimes benefit from help even if there is no burnout. People have limits.

roguetrick, w So I really am the cancer on this platform
Facni, w So I really am the cancer on this platform

I realize that a magazine I made isn't available through lemmy.world and lemmy.ml and some communities from there aren't available here. Does someone know why?

livus,
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Normally if nobody from an instance has subscribed it doesn't show up in searches from that instance. You have to manually type the exact url and subscribe that way. Once one person has done it, it will show up.

Facni,

I tried, but it doesn't work. Is this something that will change in the future?

ghostatnoon,
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I've had it take up to a week for a community to show up after I've searched for it.

Pamasich,

To newly federate a magazine with Lemmy, search for it using the syntax !Polytopia@kbin.social in Lemmy's built-in search. This worked for me instantly when I just tested it on lemm.ee, after confirming that it 404s before doing it.

CharlesReed, w So I really am the cancer on this platform

Oof, that sucks, especially since a good chunk of my subs are to lemmy.world instances. I hope this gets sorted out soon.

Auster, w So I really am the cancer on this platform

Oh, so that must be why quite a few of the magazines I follow more consistently started appearing empty. Thanks for addressing it, op!

MrKaplan,
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for a magazine to show up on lemmy, a logged-in user needs to visit it first. afterwards, to ensure that new content is published to lemmy instances, someone from that instance needs to subscribe to the magazine. this needs to happen on every instance as far as i know. this is one of the reasons services like lemmy-federate.com or browse.feddit.de exist.

Auster,

The magazines I follow, they worked before, so I don't think this would apply.

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