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Damaskox, w The Unofficial Kbin Guide is now available from the kbin.social FAQ page!
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Care to paste a link in here that takes us to this FAQ page??

readbeanicecream,
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kreynen,
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The link to the FAQ is also in the footer in the Help column.

Damaskox,
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Hmm. And where is this help column?

EDIT: Ah, at the bottom of the page.
Needed to search for text in the page to find it xD

QualifiedKitten, w I Still Like Kbin.social

I almost exclusively browse by hot, so I very rarely see any spam (of course, that's thanks to those of you who browse by new!), but I have another account on lemmy.world, so I got to spend some time yesterday scrolling there and blocking LOTS of communities from my feed. Mostly just stuff in languages I don't know, but still, a different set of "junk" to work on filtering out.

I'm also still very much down with kbin.social, and I don't even use the microblogging features at all. I figure, if I want something polished with minimal downtime, I could always go back to the old places, but I'd rather see/help something better grow.

EmptyRadar, w I Still Like Kbin.social

Well I'll tell ya that I am a big fan of kbin but I am posting this from an mbin instance because this has been going on for a looooong time now.

Hope for the best while you prepare for the worst.

FfaerieOxide,
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I am a big fan of kbin but I am posting this from an mbin instance

And good luck to your instance. I wouldn't feel as comfortable uploading anything to US servers myself, and I didn't find any words similar to the following (from your instance) on kbin.social:

We may use the information that you provide to us, and any other information of yours that is associated with, or related to, the Web Site, including but not limited to your IP address, email address, content of posts, content of private messages, and use of the Web Site, for our internal business and we may disclose the information to law enforcement personnel, governmental agencies, legal counsel and/or third parties at any time and for any purpose.

EmptyRadar,

I'm not saying anything negative about kbin, and I still have and use a kbin account. I'm just saying that it's hard to post anything from an error page.

I appreciate the info though, I am experimenting with different instances so that's good to know.

livus,
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@FfaerieOxide good catch. Wtf.

8BitFriendly,
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Where exactly did you find this?
I checked out https://kbin.run/privacy-policy but I couldn't find this statement.

FfaerieOxide,
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Where exactly did you find this?
I checked out https://kbin.run/privacy-policy but I couldn't find this statement.

Section 11.

User information under Terms Of Service

8BitFriendly,
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Thanks, found it!

_haha_oh_wow_, w I Still Like Kbin.social
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I like Kbin too. I also like Lemmy. They are both good if you ask me.

FfaerieOxide,
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I also like Lemmy.

Lemmy hasn't grabbed me yet like kbin has. Is mastodon as integrated with lemmy as it is with kbin?

Apparently you can't say fag on lemmy.world which could cause some problems with some of the magazines I mod here. Also I'm left with negative feelings from lemmy.world not federating images and posts I reply to .world threads from .social.

-mygrad is right out because I do not believe making common cause with the allies of people who want my friends dead is "...of a progressive character".

.ml has similar issues to the above two

blajah.zone I have no issue with but I just don't want that to be my home instance. I actually have been trying to break their monopoly on 196 for a while now

Beehaw is fine but they're always talking about defederating so that basket seems unfit to slip my eggs into.

exploding heads is a shit instance for fascists

sh.itjust.works—and this is no slight toward or reflection on present company—seems like that place for people who complain about "censorship" and "echo chambers" when they get asked to leave a dunkin doughnuts for sig heiling on the counter while making a hitler 'stache out of a cruller. Again not you, I am sure you are lovely, but when someone complains they can't be transphobic and their account is more than 3 weeks old, odds are good "@sh.itjust.works" is trailing their handle.

originalucifer, w I Still Like Kbin.social
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i donate financially to kbin, and i dont use it other than as a remote, federating platform. the outage means nothing to me personally.

still would be nice to get a little administrative communication on a system designed for.. ya know, communication.

BiggestBulb, w Request for an off-site status communication method and more admins to help run the site & communicate with users
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Honestly, I really fear for both kbin and mbin. I was really hoping for more substantial changes in both by this time, but honestly it's just staying largely the same.

Essence_of_Meh, w Any way to export and import subscriptions?

There's one tool for Lemmy but I never found anything similar for kBin unfortunately. Automatic account migration is also stuck as a planned feature for Mbin at the moment.

I'm afraid you'll have to do it by hand.

Suspiciousbrowsing, w So blimey - what happened there?

I ended up finding another fork Mbin, but I'll be fucked if I know how to sign up to it.

originalucifer,
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Suspiciousbrowsing,

Oh heck, thanks. Turns out I somehow landed on someone's dev instance and they had registration disabled

Pat, w So… what's going on?

At this point, the best thing would just to move to an instance using mbin, a fork created by many devs who contributed to and wanted to improve kbin but were upset at lack of progress. With Ernest's many absences all the improvements weren't being merged. Many instances using the name kbin, such as the one I'm on, have switched to mbin long ago and have many of the features and fixes that have been requested and long waited for.

QualifiedKitten, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers

Are you guys browsing by new? Do you moderate active communities? I'm just curious to understand why we seem to have such different experiences since I only encounter spam once or twice per week, but I definitely spend way too many hours scrolling.

HeartyBeast,
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Yes, I quite often browse by new

FarraigePlaisteach, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers

I spend more time blocking spammers than anything else. I’m sure it will improve once this issue gets more attention, but for now I think I’ll take a break from this site.

EmptyRadar, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers

I agree that this may be the only real solution for the time being. I have personally been trying to submit good content to my favorite magazines to combat some of the spam, but there is a real influx of it and it's making it difficult to use the site.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers
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This might be a good idea, at least until Ernest gets back. To my knowledge, he's the only instance admin, so as long as he's inactive, the spammers won't get dealt with (especially on magazines he moderates, like /m/tech).

Ideally, there could be another admin or two to deal with this stuff when he's not available, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯.

Hello_there, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers

Metafilter had a charge of a dollar or two to sign up, and no recurring payments. Seems like a good way to prevent spammers.
Not too much of a hurdle to cross, especially if payments are thru Amazon or some other existing service ppl have trust in. Any funds go to server costs.

HubertManne, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers
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you know I think one of the smarter things facebook did was only allowing edu emails initially or google allowing current users to send invites.

snooggums,
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Facebook doing edu (initially only one school) only was to target a specific audience. Google followed the exclusivity model to gain hype and encourage word of mouth.

Neither did it for security reasons and both switched to open sign-ups once they reached a certain level of users.

HubertManne,
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I did not work at either at levels where I would know their reasons but whatever their reasons it did make growth in the start slow and steady.

BasicTraveler,

Getting a free .edu account is trivial.

HubertManne,
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not for spammers. it was a nice first level filter till they had the resources to do more effective spam fighting (which they don't do all that well)

BasicTraveler,

No, it's incredibly easy to get a .edu account.

HubertManne,
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Why don't automated spam systems use them then? Its easy for an individual but its not super automately like google. At least at my alma matter its not.

BasicTraveler,

I think you're thinking 4 year college, not 2 years. It takes a lot of effort and money to apply to a 4 year school. It takes like 5 minutes to apply at your local community college online and get a .edu email address, and it's free.

Using .edu as some sort of validation is a terrible idea because it's something anyone can get with just a few minutes of work.

HubertManne,
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yeah thats for an an individual though. A robotic spam account that needs to make a thousand accounts automatically is not going to make one so easily. spam from individuals is much easier to deal with than machine spam.

BasicTraveler,

It is stupid easy to get a free .edu account. It will not hamper spammers in the slightest. Even if they don’t want to make a few .edu accounts a day to do their spamming, they can just buy .edu accounts in bulk for about 10 cents per. No one is making thousands of kbin accounts to spam from, they make a handful a day, and use them till they get banned. Then they make a few more.

.edu accounts are a terrible way to try and prevent spam on kbin. There is literally an industry around generating fake .edu accounts. You can buy them in bulk. Some colleges receive 10’s of thousands of fake applications a month trying to get free .edu emails.

HubertManne,
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Yeah I had no idea they could be bought it bulk. I thought you had to be registered. Granted there are all the for profit colleges now. Would not be surprised if they straight sold them directly.

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