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starrox, do games w Why Building Your Own PC Is Still a Smart Move in 2023 | Toms Hardware
@starrox@sh.itjust.works avatar

Building your own gaming machine was always the best option if you knew about new technologies, compatibilities, brands etc. The problem I see these days is that the market is really, really saturated in everything PC. Which makes the research necessary extensive and time consuming for people who are not exactly “on the pulse” when it comes to hardware.

So it also becomes a question of “do I want to spend the time to get exactly what I need for the cheapest possible price?” versus just checking some meta-sites that review prebuilt PCs and pick one that is rated good by the community instead.

socialjusticewizard,

I think the right way to go is fine a good local computer store with knowledgeable people and get their help parting out and assembling it. You get some repair coverage and benefits like that, they do the bulk of the work, and you can put your own options in on anything you’re knowledgeable about. It’s what I’ve done and it’s well worth it for the small extra cost.

DanNZN,

There was a period where you could not find the 3000 series NVidia cards unless you went prebuilt. Other than that, I agree, always built all my machines after my first 286.

PorkTaco, do games w Why Building Your Own PC Is Still a Smart Move in 2023 | Toms Hardware

On, Sunday, our sister site Tom’s Guide (which is a different publication targeted at less-tech-savvy readers), published an op-ed from writer Dave Meikleham claiming that building PCs is “a mistake”

I’m glad that article got called out. I would have been embarrassed to publish that on a tech site. Such a poor take. Like I get his point, but he pretty much broke the machine himself, then talked about how a laptop “just works”. Well it only “just worked” because you weren’t able to break it because you can’t take the thing apart to upgrade or repair it.

weirdo_from_space, do games w Why Building Your Own PC Is Still a Smart Move in 2023 | Toms Hardware

If youcre building for gaming, personally I’d advise aganist building a high end PC however.

Most AAA releases suck. Buggy, broken, soulless, rushed. There is no point in chasing high end hardware that can run them.

The pre-built I’ve ordered will come with an AMD 5600G APU, sufficent for most if not all indie releases.

catharticrespite,

After building a PC for the first time a few years ago, I’ll never buy a pre-built desktop again (low or high end)

The amount of corners they cut and terrible design decisions they make just so you can’t reuse the parts elsewhere are not only criminal from a consumer perspective, but an environmental one as well

PorkTaco,

Love watching GamersNexus pre-built pc reviews. Check it out if you haven’t. Confirms everything you just said.

weirdo_from_space,

I’ve got mine through an online wizard of sorts, so I have picked almost all of the parts. And I understand your point of view but this is all I can afford at the moment, I didn’t want to try to build my own PC for the first time and somehow screw it up.

catharticrespite,

I get your concern, I was extremely worried my first time. It’s a lot easier than you might expect though

Still, it’s your money and your comfort. If it’s worth the extra money for a pre-built to save you peace of mind, by all means do as you will

PorkTaco,

I’ve found being a patient gamer really pays off. I have a relatively powerful machine but I don’t generally play any games that haven’t been out for several months to a year. By then they usually work, in my experience, pretty flawlessly. Anything I’m interested in anyway. Which are pretty exclusively single-player story-driven games.

weirdo_from_space,

Fair enough, but not all of those games’ problems are technical. A lot of them just either fundamentally suck, or are technically well built but don’t offer anything truly interesting.

I understand this is subjective; but why would I want to play Ghost of Tsushima when I could be playing Hades, Hotline Miami or Undertale?

PorkTaco,

Oh no for sure I love a good indie game too. It’s just that if the ONLY reason someone would stay away from AAA games are due to the initial bugs and whatnot then they should try coming back after they’re fixed up a bit. But absolutely nothing wrong with not being interested and just rocking out some indie games.

PerogiBoi, do games w Why Building Your Own PC Is Still a Smart Move in 2023 | Toms Hardware
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

My last PC build had a GTX 1060 that I bought at the time for $330.

My most recent one has an RTX 3060Ti and I paid over $700 for it 😭

If GPU prices don’t come down it’s going to be cheaper and smarter for me to buy a prebuilt PC, at least where I live.

catharticrespite,

Wow that sucks. Pcpartpicker has 3060 ti’s ~$370 now

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

My heart bleeds.

RebekahWSD, do games w Extremely rare East German game console from the late 1970s tested — only such device produced by communist GDR, bought for $1,000 at auction
@RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

It’s so cute!!

Ardyssian, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

I tried Solus back in 2018 with Wine. The only game that didn’t work properly was Mass Effect Andromeda (if memory serves correctly); it kept crashing to the desktop anywhere between a few minutes in to 2 hours.

I didn’t want to have to do debugging both at work and outside of work, so I switched back to Windows, and it worked fine after that.

I would be willing to try again maybe, if I can find the will and time over the weekend to setup a hybrid Linux and Windows implementation on my PC - does anyone have any good recommendations?

fin,

Hmm… protondb says it’s playable, so worth trying maybe?

Also, I’d recommend not dual-booting your PC because it would be a pain.

Ardyssian,

Eh I’ve already played it on Windows - it was some time back.

I don’t think I can fully abandon Windows as I have some work software that is only meant to run in Windows, so either I dual boot or get a separate machine for work things.

KaranPage, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

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nutsack, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

need some support from anti-cheat

Mwa,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

its fine, cause no user program should run in the kernel. unless its a driver.

Poxlox, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

I have a 3090 and heard nvidia gpus dont do very well for Linux gaming if anyone wants to quell my fears and get me off Windows

NuXCOM_90Percent,

As long as you run the proprietary nvidia drivers, performance is more or less noise for a given driver version. There IS some annoyance with slower releases for drivers to Linux but… nvidia has had much bigger problems with new driver releases over the past year.

The big issue is if you run the open source community drivers. And… if you are spending leather jacket money and then using low performance drivers… you are an idiot. Because Mistah J already has the metrics and money he wants and doesn’t care if you actually use your card after buying it.

TheWonderfool,

I have a 3090ti. Made the switch to Linux last year after reading that most games work. Never had a problem with the card, it works flawlessly out of the box (using the proprietary Nvidia drivers).

It still was a bit of a learning curve for me though… Using steam they work without a hitch. If they are not on steam, I found that the easiest (for me) is to install them using lutris, and then adding them to steam as non-steam games and using Proton to run them.

I don’t play that many games though, so ymmv

bollybing,

Did you try heroic?

TheWonderfool,

Nope, only lutris bottles and steam. Will try next!

yardratianSoma,
@yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca avatar

been running an nvidia gpu since 2019, literally switched from windows right as cyberpunk 2077 was being launched, and trust me, it was possible back then, and it’s even more performant now.

Thoven,

I have a 3090. As long as you have the correct drivers and a quality emulator (I think I use glorious eggroll’s experimental proton branch) quality is quite comparable.

Thoven,

I have a 3090. As long as you have the correct drivers and a quality emulator (I think I use glorious eggroll’s experimental proton branch) quality is quite comparable.

psyc, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever
@psyc@lemmy.world avatar

Has support for DP 2.1 or HDR in Wayland made any improvements yet? I tried Pop_OS and had lots of issues with this

github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/…/816

I’ve been following this GitHub issue waiting for this change to make it into the next nvidia driver release but still suspect this won’t address HDR. Obviously first world problems for high end hardware but it’s one of the last pieces holding me back from trying Linux on my desktop

domi,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

HDR

HDR works on KDE and GNOME desktop environments. KDE is currently the better choice if HDR support is important.

As for software:

  • Not included in official Proton builds yet but can be enabled in Proton-GE with 2 environment variables
  • mpv works fine
  • Kodi gets support in the next major version
  • Firefox and Chromium have experimental support

Can’t speak for DP 2.1 since I have an AMD GPU and no hardware that uses DP 2.1 (yet).

psyc,
@psyc@lemmy.world avatar

Appreciate the info! I had been trying out the new Cosmic DE that ships with pop os and I’m guessing that’s still lacking HDR but did feel very performant. I’ll have to see if switching is worth the trade off once they nvidia driver update gets released

dellish, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

That’s great and all but the two things that hold me back from going 100% Linux are kernel-level anticheat, and lack of graphics card acceleration in virtual environments. Once we have those I’ll be happy.

Visual Basic added to Libre Office would be really nice too, but I get that it’s not particularly feasible.

Peruvian_Skies,

Not having Malware Anti-Cheat support is a good thing. Hopefully it will continue this way until people realize that it’s not worth giving shitty companies like EA access to your online banking passwords just to pretend to shoot 11-year-olds in the head.

dellish,

Agreed. I should have said letting the anticheat THINK it has kernel access, the same way WINE makes Windows programs think they’re on a Windows machine. I know this is an oversimplification and frankly I don’t even know what kernel-level looks like, but there has got to be a workaround that doesn’t drain resources too much.

Peruvian_Skies,

Malware Anticheat can even tell if it’s running in a VM explicitly configured to look like real hardware, so it’s probably not trivial at all to accomplish this. Like someone else said in another comment chain, the ideal solution is Microsoft patching the intentional security flaw that allows kernel-level access at all. No kernel-level cheats, no kernel-level anticheats, no incompatibility. But of course it’s against their monopolistic interests to do so even if it benefits everybody else but them.

bookmeat,

Shut your mouth about VB… 😁

dellish,

Why? I have written a lot of custom macros and created forms to assist filling data fields in large spreadsheets. I have written macros that can open a CSV, comb through the contents and pick out the data I need to fill workbooks.

I’m not saying I’m especially tied to VB itself, I actually find it to be a pretty stupid language, but I do miss being able to write my own functions and effectly use Excel as a pre built GUI for whatever I’m trying to do. If there’s an alternative in Libre Office that I’m missing please point it out.

bookmeat,

LibreOffice supports python, JavaScript, and beanshell, as well as LibreOffice basic. The latter is similar to VBA and some VB scripts can even run unmodified.

help.libreoffice.org/latest/…/scripting.html

dellish,

Oh cool. Thanks, I’ll check it out.

PurpleClouds, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

A bit sceptical of this number. Most popular games have some form of anti cheat which the game not run on Linux. Some other games sometimes have weird bugs that do not occur on windows. - source: I am on Linux 😩

dil, do games w Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

The thing is I swapped, whenever I start using something and I dont want it to become popular because everything somehow gets ruined when it gets popular, it ends up getting popular. Im usually a late “early” adopter.

montar_, do wiadomosci w [EN] Facebook flaguje tematy związane z Linuksem jako „zagrożenia dla cyberbezpieczeństwa” - posty i użytkownicy blokowani

Już odblokowali, zukierek się tłumaczył że to pomyłka, oczywiście.

Fedizen, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse

This is one of like 5 celebrities I would vote for if running for president.

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