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Potatos_are_not_friends, do games w OK Boomer Shooter: How indie games breathed new life into a dying genre

Boomer shooter is a moniker to try to be cute with language. Because these shooters go “Boom”.

Fuck that noise. Call it a Classic Doom-like.

TwilightVulpine,

Nah, Genres being named after the first game that does it is pretty uninspired. It almost makes it sound like players can’t articulate what makes the game interesting.

Alteon,

But then the media post won’t be totes edgy and get people to click on it…

legion,
@legion@lemmy.world avatar

Call it a Classic Doom-like.

That’s basically reverting back to calling games “DOOM clones”.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

That’s basically reverting back to calling games “DOOM clones”.

Calling something like Amid Evil with its spectacular map architecture a mere Doom clone does it a disservice, though, because Doom closes were basically flat and had 90° walls. Descent and Quake 1 aren’t clones of Doom either.

CarlsIII,

Still better than boomer shooter

ramblinguy,

Maybe it should be called Doomer Shooter instead

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Then you’re catering to the peppers

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck that noise. Call it a Classic Doom-like.

Except that other than a few GZDoom-based games, Dusk and such have more in common with Quake than Doom, being fully 3D.

Cypher, do games w OK Boomer Shooter: How indie games breathed new life into a dying genre

I refuse to use “boomer shooter” it’s a dumb moniker that ignores the single most influential person involved in the genre: John Carmack.

He’s not a boomer, boomers didn’t make the genre, boomers don’t deserve the credit.

Dukeofdummies,
@Dukeofdummies@kbin.social avatar

... man I never made that connection. I thought it was because there was never an explosion smaller than somebodies head. If it doesn't cause a boom it's a gun that shouldn't be in a boomer shooter.

mephiska,

Agreed. Carmack is Gen X.

Its_Always_420,
@Its_Always_420@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t even think boomers played these when they were popular. At the time they were still way too scared of technology, think flashing 12:00 on the vcr jokes. These games are Gen-x/millennials childhood shooters.

Phegan,

My boomer father pirates doom for me as a child.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

the single most influential person involved in the genre: John Carmack.

Why would an engine developer be responsible game design? Are you confusing the Johns and meant John Romero?

And what would the genre be called then? John-like?

boomers didn’t make the genre, boomers don’t deserve the credit.

Neither did Castlevania in Metroidvania. Metroid founded the genre a decade before Symphony of the Night game out, it’s just that it was called a side-scrolling action adventure. That’s a bit long, though, so a shorthand was needed.

Personally, I would not mind “Retro FPS” but it’s just a label and in the end doesn’t really matter much.

Cypher,

John Romero also isn’t a boomer but the reason I believe Carmack was more influential is because he was the single most important person in overcoming technical challenges that allowed those games to run.

I would personally prefer Doomer shooters given Doom’s influence, especially its cultural influence.

delitomatoes,

What about…Doom Clones? Full circle there

Cypher,

Eh it’s got to roll off the tongue if it’s going to stick

WarmSoda,

They’ll always be doom clones to me, up to a point.

CarlsIII,

“Metroidvania” is a bad term too

discusseded,

Dude, if you think the game engine designer and programmer had nothing to do with the end result then you’re out of your mind. Romero did some design, play-tested, and wrote some utility applications for game development. He is not the star of Doom by a long shot. There were others, but Carmack was the music maker, the dreamer of the dreams at that company.

You do know that symphony of the night is not the first Castlevania, right? The first Metroid and first Castlevania games both came out in 1986.

Get some culture Van Winkle, you have been asleep for too long.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Dude, if you think the game engine designer and programmer had nothing to do with the end result then you’re out of your mind.

You’re projecting waaaay to much into what I wrote. Carmack did not design the game but obviously the engine is part of the overall package. Reading my statement into saying that he “had nothing to do with the end result” is insane.

You do know that symphony of the night is not the first Castlevania, right? The first Metroid and first Castlevania games both came out in 1986.

Yes, and for a decade Castlevania games were not “Metroidvanias”. That’s why the term makes no sense to be part of the genre but I also don’t throw a tantrum over unimportant things on the internet. Relax.

Get some culture Van Winkle, you have been asleep for too long.

Why are you so angry? I did not attack you or your mom. It’s just about video games. Chill, man.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

It’s a joke.

It caught on because boomer is a synonym for old and a synonym for loud / explosive etc.

sndmn,

Try harder, it hasn’t caught on.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

lol

MossBear,

It’s like what someone who wasn’t even born when these games were made would think. Just say no to “boomer shooter”. Classic FPS is fine. Old School FPS is fine. Anything but “boomer shooter”.

Pisodeuorrior, do gaming w OK Boomer Shooter: How indie games breathed new life into a dying genre

Fucking hell this is super weird. I was going through my comments history, and one of them was "what's a boomer shooter?"in reply to someone who mentioned the term a few weeks ago.

Since it wasn't replied I looked it up like a minute ago, and came across this very article.

The very first thread I clicked on after I came back to my feed was this one :0

2tone, do games w OK Boomer Shooter: How indie games breathed new life into a dying genre

Wow, no mention of Prodeus

_sideffect,

Amazing game

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