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helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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My point though is that you talk about all of that as if it’s some sort of chore.

Repetitive gameplay is not fun for me, personally but more power to you. I’m just trying to figure out what exactly I’m missing before I invest time into this game.

I rarely even get to the point of having to stop and weigh choices in my inventory

Those are not the types of games I’m talking about. Borderlands is the worst example I can think of where you have to stop every 3 minutes because the ground is constantly just littered with weapons, each with a dozen traits that is, at no time, explained to you while playing the game.

Horizon Zero Dawn is another one.

Now obviously those games are very popular, which is precisely what I’m trying to understand.

Broadly, you’re asking if other people actually invest the time and energy to sort out how to play complex games.

No it’s not. Obviously you do, or you wouldn’t play them. What I’m asking is how you sort it out.

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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Maybe I’ll find my way back to it later…

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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And what they’re saying is that those elements are fun to the people who play these games.

In no way did I respond to that.

Weighing different priorities to choose the best or preferred option for the future is flexing some very serious psychological muscles. Developing strategies to do it well is these types of people’s version of practicing 3 point shots.

That’s all well and good but the game often doesn’t give you the knowledge required to make those choices thoughtfully. It feels like I’m expected to spend my days on internet forums and search engines just to figure out how to play the game.

If that’s the case, that’s fine, I will just avoid the game. But I feel like there should be some sort of disclaimer in the store.

Reading you complain about it

I haven’t complained about anything. I just asked a question.

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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That is exactly why I’m afraid to dedicate time to games like this haha.

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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You talk about your inventory filling up and then just selling everything

Uh, no, that’s not what I said at all.

My inventory is finite and at some point I have to choose what stays and what goes. Not only that but I have to sell enough things that I can continue picking up more items without leaving items on the ground in the middle of the map.

Then having to regularly stop and weigh the weapons in my inventory against the weapons on the ground and making choices I don’t even fully understand that come back to bite me in the ass later.

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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I don’t remember. According to my history I last played Feb 2022 and for a total of 7 hours. I just remember why I quit.

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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Cool, that’s reassuring, thanks

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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Thank you 👍

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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Thank you for this insightful feedback ❤️

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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Oh wow, okay, good to know. Well my brother has agreed to play the co-op with me and help me out. Maybe I’ll learn to love it. Just not sure I want to 😂

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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There are tons of games that don’t require that sort of knowledge base or study investment

Oh yeah I know that, it just seems like these type of games are super popular. My brother, who gifted me the game, loves it.

I think it may be something about my personality that just gets FOMO if I don’t know everything.

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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Thank you. It feels crazy that SO MANY PEOPLE are playing these crazy complex games. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I just prefer to spend my time playing intuitive games.

I used to play Destiny 1 and I was all about it for a couple of years and I get how much fun those kind of games can be but even after all that time I was spending more time trying to figure out how to play it than I was actually playing it and eventually just burned out.

helenslunch, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
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I’m worried that if I “just wing it” it’s going to make things very difficult as my character will be super weak.

helenslunch, do gaming w Gabe Newell on why game delays are okay: 'Late is just for a little while. Suck is forever.'
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Why is the consumer just expected to roll over and take it

They’re expected to do it because that’s exactly what they do, every time.

helenslunch, do gaming w Rant: Valve's new Steam Deck screws speak volumes about their ethos.
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Apple’s business model is to sell hardware

That is incorrect. Apple sells a wide variety of software and subscription services, including ALL apps in the App Store, with a whopping 30% share of any app purchase or in-app purchases, much like Steam.

Valve’s business model is to sell software

Valve could just as easily decide they want to profit from the hardware, just like Apple. Especially now that they’ve sold several million of them. They choose not to.

You can argue that Apple’s business model is antiquated or suboptimal

It is absolutely neither of those things. They have a brilliant business model. So much so that they’re able to sucker people into paying 100%+ more than any of their products are actually worth while simultaneously pissing in their faces and telling them it’s raining by building in a locked ecosystem, disallowing the users to decide what software they want to use, and making their hardware almost completely irreparable.

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