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haui_lemmy, do games w The "Stop Killing Games" Australian Petition is Live

Lets goooo! :)

haui_lemmy, do games w Is there a sort of collection/discussion of the stopkillinggames.com campaign?

There definitely should be. And folks who read this (sadly only those outside the US) should act immediately.

Edit: Thinking about it, you might wanna have a look at !anticorporate.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w The largest campaign ever to stop publishers destroying games | Accursed Farms

Awesome videos! Especially german and french citizens should go wild with this since we have the strongest consumer protection. They even give you a tutorial for your specific country and situation.

You do not need to own the crew for this.

haui_lemmy, do games w Could Xbox Soon Become The Next Dreamcast?

I sincerely hope walled garden consoles all go the way of the dreamcast. We‘re seeing huge advantages in small set top box style computers with plug and play functionality.

The most important part is you actually own the device which means you can put any OS on it, write your own apps and customize and use it however you like for however long you want.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces

CS2 is infintely worse imo than CS:GO. Yes, the maps got updated but local multiplayer works way worse and the bots are a laughable mess. Took me days to get working properly on debian too.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

I can live with that. I agree with you there. Have a great day! :)

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

I agree that it is important that addicts need help. But having unrestricted gambling is not that. Its why even in countries that allow gambling, it is highly restricted. Were moving in a circle now. Maybe we need to agree to disagree here.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

The drug war in the US - same as any other war - imo was profit seeking of the military industrial complex, incarceration industry and power shifting away from the people, nothing else.

It is not the drugs you need to outlaw, it is the living conditions. The reason nobody gets a handle on drugs is because there is homelessness and injustice galore. Countries around the world have very different approaches to this and they mostly work better than the US solution of mass incarceration.

Corporations designing things for user retention instead of fun is hard to see for people without professional background in marketing sometimes. These things are giving you a way of influencing the subconcious, avoiding the concious in the process. This manipulation is why gambling is outlawed for kids, not the money aspect.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

You can see from the downvotes that you‘re being trolly but not fun.

I guess we just agree to disagree and go our seperate ways now.

Have a good one.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

I agree fully. Its disgusting. People literally drinking the cool aid. Can I ask you something weird? I feel like making a counterweight (like political movements, eg the fedipact) would actually help.

Like a movement with a name and a written agenda so we dont have to repeat ourselves all the time. The idea is that we identify games with exploitative mechanics, dont buy them and call out the makers.

Its incredibly easy to put a link in a comment under a post hyping such a game to counter it. The more we push this, the more people will follow. We could then start sending open letters (per email) to game studios where people sign this.

We might he able to change this shit. Would you like to help? I‘d draft up something and we can make posts to gather an initial group of people.

Those are just ideas but it works wonders in other topics so why not try? Feel free to dm me if you want to discuss this.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

I feel like this is much too rare of a statement. No idea why people dont get this. It’s like talking to children sometimes.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

I dont like you stating things as if they were an objective truth. It is your opinion that infinite scrolling is “good” or whatever you wanted to say. But it is a retention method and not just a QoL feature. There are articles explaining this and some websites have expressly disabled it because it leads to problems for people who are vulnerable.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

You can disagree. That doesnt make it invalid. Also, the point I‘m making still stands.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behaviour that produces natural reward, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences.

If you employ psychologists and other specialists to design something for maximum retention, you‘re not making something „entertaining“, you‘re tricking the brain into a loop.

We could discuss this endlessly but suffice it to say that there are techniques for retention that dont make an experience necessarily better but more captivating. Infinite scrolling is a very simple example. i bet some game designers could shine a pretty bright light on this if they stumble across this thread.

I could abstract this to the real world like so: two people can speak exactly the same text but one cares if their audience is getting tired and stops, the other one speaks a little louder and turns on some more lights. I‘m pretty sure you will get a significantly longer retention despite the quality being the exact same.

And this is why methods for retention need to be carefully screened and regulated.

haui_lemmy, do gaming w You can't sue us for making games 'too entertaining,' say major game developers in response to addiction lawsuits

and you think this is the only way or what gave you the intention this is a helpful response?

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