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TWeaK, do games w Palworld Developer Reveals The Pokémon Patents Nintendo Claims It's Violating

Looking it up, Palworld was announced in 2021, but not released (under early access) until 2024. However they were apparently designing the game back in 2020, if not earlier.

TWeaK, do games w Palworld Developer Reveals The Pokémon Patents Nintendo Claims It's Violating

Obviously this depends on the exact details of the patents, which are all in Japanese, as well as the specifics of Japanese patent laws.

However, patents only last for 20 years, and they are undermined by public disclosure before filing. The first Pokemon game came out more than 20 years ago. However^2 not all of the features in the patents were present in the original games. All 3 patents were first filed in 2021, well after many of these features were established.

The first patent is about aiming something and entering into a fight mode. This wasn’t in the original game. Aiming at enemies and entering a fight mode almost certainly existed before Pokemon (Final Fantasy perhaps). Furthermore, Palworld doesn’t really have a fight mode - it isn’t a turn based game but real time. Throwing a sphere is just one way to start a “battle” but there is no mode change between “explore” and “battle” modes because they are functionally the same in Palworld. Pokemon Go and Pokemon Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee, which were all around in 2018, would seem to amount to public disclosure that undermines this patent.

The second patent has more detail about catching Pokemon outside of battles. This might have some elements of Palworld gameplay in it. However, again we have prior art that predates the patent.

The third patent is about riding characters. This has certainly existed in other games before Pokemon and before this patent. Off the top of my head, World of Warcraft had you riding mounts, Final Fantasy had you riding Chocobos, and Mega Man let you ride Rush.

However the big issue with all of these is that these challenges are always better off done before the patent is granted. With the patents established it is a massive uphill struggle trying to get them withdrawn. Given that each charge is only for $33,000, so about $100,000 total, I expect a settlement will be reached instead of going on this fight.

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I sure hope they don’t plan on having more than 2 anniversaries.

TWeaK, do games w Here are the patents Nintendo and The Pokémon Company are suing Palworld over

Yeah the newer they are, the more frivolous they are - especially since you could argue the release of games using those patents amounts to public disclosure.

However, you’re still left in the situation where an established patent is very solid and difficult to challenge, even when it should never have been granted in the first place.

TWeaK, do games w Here are the patents Nintendo and The Pokémon Company are suing Palworld over

5 mil yen is about $32k. In total they’re suing for about $100k.

I would imagine the 3rd patent at the very least should be invalidated - riding characters in video games predates Pokemon (MegaMan riding Rush comes to mind, as well as World of Warcraft [although I don’t know if the patent predates WOW mounts]). However the nature of patents is that once they’re granted they are very difficult to dismiss.

The other two are more tricky. Throwing balls at something us a uniquely Pokémon idea, I think, and the aiming one would come down to the technicalities of the patent itself, which is all Japanese to me.

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Booo, someone already stole my username :(

TWeaK, do gaming w There are two types of games

The buy screens.

TWeaK, do gaming w There are two types of games

If this was true, Counter Strike surf maps would be both.

But really this whole concept is bullshit.

TWeaK, do games w Nintendo Direct announced for June 18 at 7 AM PT

The more I hear that they won’t announce the Switch 2 the more I think they will.

TWeaK, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

Yeah, I think they normally do full embargoes for that exact reason.

TWeaK, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

Well normally they just tell you you aren’t allowed to talk about the game period. This is a slightly relaxed position from that stance.

TWeaK, do games w CD Projekt Red are splitting from GOG somehow?

Classy argument.

TWeaK, do games w CD Projekt Red are splitting from GOG somehow?

I’m not confusing anything here. For clarity, CPD is the parent company, CDPR is a department within the parent company that develops games. The two are basically synonymous.

What I’m doing is inferring that their statement “online services including…” is in no way an exhaustive list, and directly implies that other things are migrating also. Furthermore, when I logged into GOG Galaxy I could no longer shop for new games (not just CDPR games, but recent games from other publishers - only old titles were available), which further leant into the idea that games were being removed from the GOG store. I’ve since checked gog.com and they’re still there, though.

In any case, even if it doesn’t happen right away this move absolutely is a step towards CDPR games not being listed on the GOG store and potentially even coming with DRM.

I’ve created a support ticket with them asking for further details about the change.

TWeaK, do games w CD Projekt Red are splitting from GOG somehow?

But it isn’t a merger, it’s a partial transfer. Your GOG account will still exist, but your CDPR games will be moved from GOG to CDPR.

Exactly what this means is unclear, the email and their online FAQ merely says “online features including Cross Progression and My Rewards as well as CDPR Forums” - it does not list everything that’s being migrated. It could be that GOG will only sell old games, while new games will be on a separate store, or it could be just that achievements and cross-platform scores will be on CDPR while GOG continues as normal. It could also end up being a gradual change with GOG falling to the wayside, and new games (1st and 3rd party) only being sold on CDPR.

Also, GDPR is hardly a reason. GOG is a CDPR subsidiary, and both are based in Poland, which is in the EU. They’re in the same jurisdiction. There’s no real issue with GDPR, even if the two services were sharing data - GDPR allows this for the purpose of providing a service.

I’ve sent a support ticket to them asking for more information.

TWeaK, do games w CD Projekt Red are splitting from GOG somehow?

Possibly. However, that still doesn’t really fit in with the way CDPR have worked up to now.

Since Cyberpunk 2077 their behaviour has changed.

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