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I was gonna say metro as well. Caught it on stream two years ago, liked it. Read the books, awesome. Playing the first one rn, found out I‘m a wimp.

Also fallout except 76 (I have it but i dont like playing it, I really don’t like the always online part).

The witcher series (currently reading the first book after watching the series and finishing all three games.

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It should be the same for everything: if an ip is no longer used, it should be in the public domain. Therefore, a company holding said IP is forced to use it (as in selling copies) or give it up.

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Honestly, in our fast moving world, I‘d do like a year. If nothing gets announced or release, you‘re done.

Example, you take a book, game or song from the market because you want people to be unable to buy it before you release the successor. Then you delay the successor for 5 yrs. Boom, public domain.

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Oof. I feel you. I like cars and I hate when this happens.

I got another good example: I‘m in the market for a garden plot (I live in a city with no perspective on getting my own house soon).

There are waiting lists that are years if not decades long. All while gardens get sold/rented out behind the curtain and worst of all: abandoned ones rotting away or being used as scrap yards by companies (which should be illegal).

It just makes me so sad. We have so much stuff we could solve if you could just go to your local government rep and tell them to change this, state your reasons and watch it change.

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Tough luck man. Have been in this situation a couple times.

Current working theory is that the reason are our relationship templates formed in childhood.

If someone has had abusive and/or gaslighting role models early on, they will not avert or even seek narcissistic relationships. I have been in this situation for a long time and am working for years to get rid of it.

This is what I think happens with people liking clear cut narcissists like musk and having friends who „somehow“ like him.

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Absolutely correct imo. Although bg looks great, the company behind it is also not known for their decency iirc.

Maybe consider sailing the high seas my friend.

Edit: I am not talking about Larian studios but the IP holder, Wizards of the Coast. They’re know for their less than stellar trackrecord.

www.gamespot.com/articles/…/1100-6510643/

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Ok, I misphrased it. The company behind the lore ancestor (D&D) is who I‘m talking about: Wizards of the Coast.

Here‘s an explanation why they suck: www.gamespot.com/articles/…/1100-6510643/

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It was a misrepresenation on my part. I should have said the company behind the game behind the game. Which isn’t larian but wizards of the coast.

And yes, I am correct with that:

www.gamespot.com/articles/…/1100-6510643/

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Sorry. I‘ll correct this shortly. Not larian, the studio that made the game but the company that owns D&D, Wizards of the Coast is who I‘m referring to.

Source:

www.gamespot.com/articles/…/1100-6510643/

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Yes, but apparently I phrased it incorrectly. The company behind the game, behind the game which is D&D and Wizards of the Coast. They’re also known to overprice stuff.

www.gamespot.com/articles/…/1100-6510643/

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That be as it may, to ask for 80 bucks is not ok, period. Paying 60 to get it early made sense to me for some games but I just won’t do it for 80.

Not to hurt anyone, just because I‘m not accepting this new situation. I didn’t get a 33% pay raise so they don’t get one either.

But since we‘re already here, can you please deliver a source for your claim that the „license is already paid“?

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Just read my comment. I think 80 bucks is too much same as op and the fact that wotc is part of this fits perfectly with the too high price.

Also, please show proof that larian paid a one time fee for the license when you claim stuff like this.

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Feel free to dig out the tweet. Until I know that wotc gets 0 cents off of my purchase, I will promote sailing.

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Which is ok imo. Still a lot of money but reasonable. The 80 bucks is for ps5 which is idiotic.

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No denial from me there :)

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I‘m not interested in watching youtube vids and no, games dont need to get more expensive. This just imposes other limits.

The most important oversight „more cost!“ argumenters always make is that game companies (same as movie companies) produce a game once that can rake in profits forever.

Minecraft for example, the most played game ever, is 30 bucks. It’s a wonder that microsoft hasn’t made it 60 after buying the company and starting the enshittification of minecraft but maybe it is around the corner.

The point is, game companies are not people, they are companies. They don’t need out pity. If they make a good game, they make millions, real easy calculations. Some make games with shitty loot boxes, others without. They still both make money.

Just keep your pro corporation arguments to yourself.

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If a product doesn’t work, you should be able to refund it. I don’t know what country you‘re in but in a lot of them they can’t get away with this. If you google „refund unplayable game“ you should see a couple people giving advice. Good luck.

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Good job! Can you please elaborate for me and the others how you did it? What did you say specifically?

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Thanks a lot! :) glad it worked out for you in the end.

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Honestly, this should have been outlawed long ago.

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It’s just idiotic. Even more idiotic is the idea that we cant change these things. Dump letters on the government, pressure them, make groups to fight for this, and if that’s not enough, protest. It’s a minor change that will only have positive consequences. Why won’t we do it? (Spoiler: because it is easier to think nothing can be done)

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Probably stating the obvious but „are in no threat of being deleted“ is an absolute joke.

A company holding the IP can just make it unavailable tormorrow. A big chunk of us is here because reddit somehow is allowed to delete our posts because the law is idiotic. At least european people are allowed to get their data but the cooperative works of thousands of people is threatened due to those laws.

The concept of IP needs to be reformed.

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What exactly are you trying to convey? That these „works“ made by ordinary people who have only a basic understanding of copyright law should be deleted if someone feels like it? That the law is more important than justice?

Also, do you really think you‘re cool by implying things phrased as a question? Won‘t you just talk like a normal person and state your opinion instead of fake-calling-out others?

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Our culture has been copyrighted.

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Yes and it’s horrific

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I‘m glad you saw your mistake. Have a good one.

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Why are you going after them so hard? This place is supposed to be for discussion. Calm down.

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Chicken and egg problem: they will keep buying those games as long as the company controls the IP. It’s always market control (always has been).

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I get your point. It’s absolutely crazy that people don’t srike en masse for better conditions but then you got people thinking fuck you I got mine.

But I also think that while this is true: EA still is pretty much the worst and needs to be disbanded for controlling large parts of the market and extortionist marketing techniques.

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I mean, sure. You are correct in principle.

The argument that people „vote with their wallet“ is not new. But the fundamental problem is that you can’t make them. They have jobs, kids and might not be the most intelligent people. So if the kids ask for this game, they might get overwhelmed by life and make bad decisions. Welcome to being human.

The issue is that corporations are not subject to „life“ so they are able to shape the market as they pleased unless stopped. It has happened countless times. Mergers being stopped because it gave them too much power, predatory business practices leading to lawsuits because they keep competition away.

It’s all about power balance. They can employ psychologists to study our behavior, we can’t and the government can’t and is too slow.

So yes, the „game difficulty“ for large corporations needs to be upped significantly.

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I can see your train of thought and it makes sense up to the last part.

As someone who has studied sales and marketing actively for nearly two decades, built rather large companies and happens to be very good at pattern recognition, I know that people don’t understand what is being done to them.

Psychology has been used for a long time to study how to make someone act against their best self interest. Putting this on people with addiction problems is both selling them short and underestimating the problem.

Sales people in certain companies (that I have been to) learn how to use body language, speech patterns, behavioral patterns and other things to manipulate people into buying a particular thing at a particular time. Keep in mind that there is a human in control in this situation and unless they have psychopathic tendencies, they will try to work with the customer instead of against them.

But this is also done in marketing. Best example is the facebook/instagram/youtube algorithm, where the goal is to keep you on the site. It is done (very simplified) with showing you everything that will or might interest, aggravate or otherwise trigger you to keep watching. I‘m not saying it is impossible to leave but especially the not so strong characters will comply. Again, this is the majority of people, not the minority.

From there it is only a small step to actually selling you stuff your don’t actually want/need by showing you price increases (urgency), many different products (availability), fitting videos on other sites (cross site tracking).

These are only the ones I have crossed in my career. It shows that the mentally vulnerable (especially kids) get blasted with this stuff and manipulated into thinking certain thoughts and wanting certain things.

So, while your extreme boom example does play out as you say, the overarching problem has a lot less remarkable features and is therefore harder to spot and harder to fight.

Combine that with giant companies that own 60% of popular sports games for example and you absolutely have a problem.

„Vote with your wallet“ only serves these corporations because nobody cares about 3 less sales if you can manipulate everyone to buying more of these.

This is why the only solution that will put an end to this is outlawing what we call „dark patterns“ (google it) and break up large corporations.

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I know and I didn’t say otherwise. But this only focuses on you and does not solve the underlying issue. I‘m not saying buy the game. I‘m saying the corporations have too much power.

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I‘m not disagreeing that not buying stuff is good. I am saying that we are not bringing corporations down and we are not discouraging them from finding new ways to fuck with us.

Madden 22 raked in 4.4 billion usd. Apparently, typical AAA games take about 60 mil usd to make. That is a 6.666% margin.

Now make something and sell it on ebay, amazon or anywhere for that margin and people will cancel you in a heartbeat. In the country I live in, if you sell something for more than twice the original price, you can get sued.

But nobody has all the stuff required to make a competitor to madden. So you control the market. Pretty easy to grasp in my opinion. And games also are getting more and more convoluted with trash paid dlc, crypto, nfts. You can look at minecraft bedrock for example. Nobody is telling bill gates to stop because people have no choice but to miss out on the game, have their kid not participate in school buddies chit chat and so on. It’s an impossible situation to solve on a „vote with your wallet“ basis.

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I‘m tired of talking about this stuff today. It’s like going to a different planet and having to explain that there are other planets with life on them, what experience we made on them and still being „corrected“ at every step.

For the video game Marvel’s Avengers, that budget was more than $178 million. Though the film was a hit, remaining the 10th highest-grossing movie ever, this game was far less successful. It never became profitable, losing the developer and publisher tens of millions of dollars in all.

It’s very boring to have people „know“ everything. I‘ll just leave. You believe whatever you like.

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No. It’s not. They’re gibing their opinion that these sportsgames are buggy and not worth a lot of money and also asks why people buy them.

The one that is gatekeeping is you by telling them what to do and in a very rude fashion.

Keep your aggression outside of this place please. If you think that is an unfair assessment, use arguments and convince people.

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I make a difference between referring to an inanimate object as „shit“ and getting up in someones face about it.

This is why I say it’s aggressive. And yes, you would have been right to call them out and say „because people enjoy it.“ or something along those lines.

It’s not worth discussing this at length. Dude has a point that many people have a problem with the software for different reasons and you have a point that people enjoy that stuff. All I‘m saying is please be kind to eachother.

Have a good one.

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You hit the nail on the head. We really need more ethics and less laws in our lives (or the laws must be more ethical).