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CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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Walmart and GameStop provide a physical place, that’s it. The Developer sends them the physical product.

Steam provides unlimited downloads, user forums, automatic updates, remote play, user reviews, Steam workshop etc…
None of these other stores provide these things.

Maybe Epic should charge more than 12% and invest that money in improving their client, or at least do that instead of wasting it on exclusivity deals. Then maybe I as a consumer will give a shit about Epic.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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So how is somebody insisting games be on GOG a DRM shill?

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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TIL having standards means you are sheltered.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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Console exclusives have a logic to them, it takes extra time and money to translate a game to be playable on different hardware.

Store exclusives do not make sense. No game is only purchasable at GameStop, and the only reason for it is to avoid competition.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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GOG is DRM?

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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Gog takes 30%, The Microsoft store takes 30%, Xbox and Nintendo take 30%, GameStop and Walmart take 30%…
So why is Steam the villian here?

ign.com/…/report-steams-30-cut-is-actually-the-in…

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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I don’t know where you got lost with:

As a consumer I’m more concerned about Epic’s anti-consumer practices than what they are paying devs.

Talking about how much they could charge devs does not change my experience as a consumer. It does not provide a compelling argument for me to use a service that does noticeably make things worse for the consumer.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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Do we need to wait until they start abusing their position

Should we be punishing Steam for things they haven’t done?

Epic was already trying to abuse their position as soon as they started up.

“You should purchase from the shitty company because if you purchase from the better company they might maybe one day become shitty” is not a compelling argument.

If Steam starts abusing their position and becomes shitty then I will stop using Steam. There is nothing morally or ethically wrong (or difficult) with “pirating” the games I have legally purchased on Steam in order to access them outside of the Steam environment.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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To make that burger they need to acquire the property, get permits, build the restaurant, purchase and receive equipment, get more permits, train staff, get supplies, advertise…

Yes, all that will take 2-3 years. I worked at a McDonald’s that was getting rebuilt and the process for a restaurant that already existed took longer than 2 years.

Thank you for focusing on the last relevant part of my comment to signal that you don’t have any actual valid criticisms of what I said.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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As a consumer I’m more concerned about Epic’s anti-consumer practices than what they are paying devs.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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(pirating is already piss easy)

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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You can’t hide behind a bad analogy simply due to it being an analogy. It’s still bad. McDonald’s doesn’t get paid until someone buys a burger. Walmart doesn’t get paid until a customer leaves the checkout. This is very normal for businesses that you don’t get money until the consumer buys your product. If I start an independent business selling socks I can make all the socks I want, I don’t get paid unless people buy them. That’s a normal risk to starting your own business.

All of this is besides the fact that I don’t blame devs for taking the offer, I blame Epic. If a game later becomes available on another service I will consider it then, I will not let Epic have any of my money.

You’re also completely forgetting about indie devs.

Okay, let’s ask an indie dev.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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Because it is in a monopolistic position

Is it forcing a monopolistic position? Or is it’s “monopolistic position” just a result of it being popular and widely used?

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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I am not a dev. You are also not a dev. Here are some thoughts from an indie dev about Steam and Epic: reddit.com/…/jason_thor_halls_pirate_software_tho…

Note the comments he makes about why an Epic exclusivity window is valuable to a dev.

CileTheSane, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.
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The employees got paid while working on the game. They don’t only get paid based on sales.

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