What's the history behind cam rips of movies and where have they typically came from? angielski

I’ve seen a few throughout my life at friend’s houses as a kid during the age of Limewire. Typically they were pretty good quality even though you’d see the odd person get up from their seat or hardcoded subtitles. Lately I’ve been curious about the history behind them and how they came to be.

Have there been well known release groups similar to the game cracking scene?

Have they always been mostly from one region?

Are they released strategically for one reason or another?

Have there been hidden methods to bust groups after a release such as steganography?

I’d be down to hear any facts about it you find interesting, stories, and if you have any articles or videos about the subject.

princessnorah,
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I don’t think I’ve seen anyone in this thread mention Telecines at all. It’s a machine that captures the video and audio from the film print directly to digital. A lot of good Cam rips were filmed from the projection booth, and could conceivably be done by a projectionist surreptitiously. Telecines though, required a large piece of equipment and time with a print outside of hours. Likely you’d need to be a manager or owner to get away with it, or have their blessing.

I remember the excitement of finding a Telecine for a movie in theatres rather than a Cam. It felt like striking gold. I bet the people releasing those in scene groups would be treated like gods back then.

princessnorah,
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Also, Telesyncs, which would be labelled TS, is when you have that high quality cam recording and sync it to a direct recording of the audio. The audio often came from the FM microbroadcast that are designed for hearing-aid users.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:35mm_film_audio_macro.jpg Dolby Digital is an image of a digital signal (basically a QR code) that is between the cog-wheel holes on one side. Good Telecine machines are able to record the full surround track from this. That used to be the absolute best you could get while something was still in theatres. Often better than award copies, they had no stupid watermarks.

luthis,

Some family friends brought back cam rips from Egypt of several Disney movies, Beauty and the beast, Aladdin, and a couple others.

They had strange ads for burgers in Arabic, and the cam was really low quality.

We didn’t really know any better being kids, so I always thought that Beauty and the Beast was a dark, terrifying, grainy, nightmarish movie.

Having seen the real version, I have to say the shitty cam copy stuck better in my mind.

Anyways, sorry I can’t answer any of your questions OP.

nestEggParrot,

That reminded of the shitty cam print of Iron Man 1. Started from the Humvee scene a minute before getting blown off. 20-30% was dark or pointed at floor for whatever reason. Godawful audio.

Thought it was a shitty movie halfway though and stopped. Got a good print after Iron man 2 released and faithfully watched all marvel release, many in cinemas, till Infinity war. Now its all available on Disney+ and I won’t watch the new ones after it.

Okalaydokalay,

Back in the day, and probably even now, as I used to encounter them when I lived in the big city, cam copies were famous on the streets. It was the only way to get a bootleg copy while the movie was still in theatres but you didn’t want to go for whatever reason.

When I lived in the big city, in a not so great area, the guys used to be in the grocery store parking lot or barbers or smoke shops selling the DVDs and before that were selling VHS copies.

And then when LimeWire grew in popularity, people would upload those like they would any retail DVD. And then went on to torrents as those grew in popularity.

And it still continues today for similar reasons. People want the fame that comes with uploading the first copy online or the first decent quality.

WarmSoda,

Well you see, when a pirate and a camcorder love each other very much, they go to a movie theater…

Rocketpoweredgorilla,
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stephfinitely,
@stephfinitely@artemis.camp avatar

This actually sounds like a great topic for a documentary

HeckingShepherd,

I’d watch a two hour YouTube video on that

pipes,
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I’d even get the Xvid DVDrip of it, but never the cam rip they are vile 😂

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