I really like these panniers, though I'm glad that I found a quicker way of managing the shoulder carry strap than the rather daft built-in things #BikeTooter@fedibikes@cycling
Makes sense: a more formal and tighter arrangement for long trips.
The ones on this model are right down underneath, to make space for the the pocket presumably, but the extra clip the pocket brings comes in handy for securing the strap in a sloppy but OK way
@ravenbait@achadwick@fedibikes@cycling I've never liked the classic Ortlieb approach of using the shoulder strap to hold the roll-top closed. Sure, it works, but now the strap is covered in mud, and I'm carrying three more shoulder straps I don't actually need. I usually close them dry-bag style, and bring a single strap so I can carry the valuables pannier when off the bike.
The City Rollers almost get it right by having something for the closure to clip into on the side, but there's no tension adjustment.
@kim@achadwick@cycling I keep it closed using the strap that comes over the top from the back, and have also used the drybag method. The front hook is just there to add tension to the longer strap -- in all my years, I've never had a problem with the strap getting particularly muddy, unless I'm also getting muddy anyway. But different use cases, maybe?
@ravenbait@achadwick@cycling Recumbent low-rider racks put the front panniers in splatter range of the front wheel, while the rider stays high and dry. Of course, the great thing about Ortliebs is you can just run them under the tap.
The over-the-top strap is incredibly useful for overloading the pannier gracefully, dangling random things from, or crossing over with the pannier on the other side for additional security, and I do miss it on my flap-closure Altura panniers (which got relegated to shopping duty when I discovered they were being eaten by the disc brake on my tourer).
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