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lostoncalantha, do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles

There’s a reason why Christ was crucified and it wasn’t for your sins. Christianity is a cult. Time to enter the 21st century people. Even the ancient Romans knew this.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, I have some pretty advanced sins

LifeInMultipleChoice,

Can I subscribe for advanced sin stories

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Once I put a hat on a goat

REDACTED,

Uhh, I don’t think ancient roman is a good example, unless barbarism, constant expansionism, slavery and patriarchy is your thing, and I’m skipping over a lot of other fucked up shit like forced sex based on status quo. While their culture was indeed rich, they were far from being an example country.

EDIT: Even carthage, the country rome destroyed, would be a better example.

partial_accumen, do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles

I have zero faith this campaign will stop until we’re back in the stone age.

Future headline:

“Game vendors pressured to stop selling games where women are allowed to vote or express an opinion that doesn’t reflect her husband’s”

Lyra_Lycan, (edited ) do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles

Clickbait doesn’t explain properly - the reason queer games were removed from Itch.io is because (and this is another issue) they were one of many media hosters who labeled anything LGBTQ+ as NSFW. The tag itself gets improperly used but anyway. They were still banning under 18s from learning and experiencing diverse life. Romance ≠ sexuality ≠ identity but some people don’t understand that.

tonytins, (edited )
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

While I agree, a lot of these banning campaigns do try to link LGBTQ+ as NSFW to justify their actions.

muusemuuse,
@muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works avatar

They understand. They don’t care.

AlphaOmega,

So they are going to ban Baldurs Gate 3?

halcyoncmdr,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

100% they would try to ban anything with any sort of romance in it if they could.

Collective Shout is a group of anti-porn nutjobs hiding behind a feminist facade.

Surprisingly, not American, the Australians decided to join the puritanical bullshit this time.

afansfw,

18+ might be a legislative requirement in some countries too, for example Russia required it since 2013, not sure if there are more countries that have the same law, but I’m sure Russia isn’t alone in their backward ways.

SkyeStarfall,

I keep people repeating this, but where are you getting this information from? I’ve never seen this claim before, and I’ve not noticed this happening when I’ve used itch in the past either?

I’ve noticed a ton of accusations of itch doing seemingly a bad thing after another, and so far all of those claims have turned out wrong. Please give a source at least!

prole,

Yeah, somehow I doubt this is just an unfortunate unintended consequence.

seralth,

A lot of devs also label their game LGBTQ because THEY the DEV are gay trans or what have you while their game has NOTHING to do with it.

Iv played so many little platformer or rougelite games that have literally zero LGBTQ themes. But are labeled LGBTQ and nsfw purely because the devs like to misuse tags.

It’s a huge fucking pet peeve of mine.

TAG YER SHIT RIGHT GOD DAMN IT.

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

they were one of many media hosters who labeled anything LGBTQ+ as NSFW.

Source? This doesn’t appear to be correct.

bacon_pdp, do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles

Well if we wanted to pressure payment processors. We need only stop using them for about a month. Just use only cash.

remon,

Most websites don’t take cash, though.

bacon_pdp,

Well, can you survive 1 month without buying anything online?

remon,

Individual purchases, sure, but I’ll just be delaying them for a months so that’s not really hurting them. The bigger issue is canceling dozens of subscriptions for a month (and then having to re-subscribe to everything). That sounds like a hassle.

And even switching to cash in stores sounds very annoying. I’d have to use a cashier checkout, which means standing in line and then you have to fumble around with cash and wait for change …

… nope. I can’t do it.

bacon_pdp,

And that is why credit card companies get to rip off stores on every transaction; which makes them pools of money.

IzzyJ,
@IzzyJ@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not a tech bro saying this, never used it before myself, but crypto seems like a sensible solution to that. Which is good cuz that means they can actually operate as currencies instead of investments

remon,

Most legit websites don’t take crypto.

seralth,

Crypto is a non viable alterative to standard currency

Your also beholden to traditional payment processors to actually get real actual useable money in and out of the system

Crypto is a stock. Not a currency.

It would be like trying to buy a game with shares in apple. No company that isn’t trying to scam people is stupid enough to touch crypto. It’s a unstable asset with no backing.

That makes it ENTIRELY unusable as a form of debt for the purpose of exchange.

AceFuzzLord,

Just don’t use any websites/apps to buy/pay for things unless absolutely necessary.

remon,

But what about all my patreon subscriptions? There is people relying on me!

AceFuzzLord,

Not much could be done if we did pressure them like that. Sacrifices sometimes need to be made to keep the elite in line.

RobotZap10000, do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles
@RobotZap10000@feddit.nl avatar

Somehow, they’re forgetting that sex sells like hot cakes. They’re also not passing up the opportunity to marginalize minorities even further!

pinheadednightmare, do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles

If I can’t have my lgbtq+ and nsfw games, then I don’t need my non-lgbtq+ and nsfw games. Go ahead and play this game and fuck around and find out. I’ll sell all of my consoles real quick. Fuck this mess.

FerretyFever0, do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles

My fucking god. You may or not believe me, but for the past 7 months, I've been almost completely unaffected by everything going on. I'm extremely lucky in that sense. This is the first thing that has gotten close to fucking with my life. I guess that I knew something was going to happen that would affect me. It didn't feel like something that would actually affect me. True, this is still mostly a minor inconvenience, but it's going to expand to include every M rated or slightly creative or provocative title. We are so fucked. My god.

Lyra_Lycan,

I’m right with you there - freedom of expression is fundamental, I feel, and freedom of autonomy is not only a privilege to us as conscious, self-aware beings, but also a constant. Imagine a couple billion international people being told they can’t have nice things or freedom by a thousand extremely conservative people from one country. This whole thing is a joke, but if it’s any consolation the people will always fight back. We will always find a way to reject the doctrine of some buffoons. Chances are some people are already compiling a catalogue of every game removed from Steam in order for them to be available. The most low-effort controversial titles may not be much of a loss, but everything following them will be.

FerretyFever0,

I think some people are already compiling lists on Bluesky. Maybe it's time for a new Steam competitor? One that isn't going to take the art of creators off for "controversial" content. The Itch.io CEO (which I first heard about 2 days ago) said that they're looking for more cooperative payment processors, so they might be bringing stuff back? No idea, I can hope though.

JustARaccoon,

All for competition but how is bringing a new competitor to the video game platform market going to solve this when the order came from the payment processors?

FerretyFever0,

Well, the marketplaces are the ones that bent if that makes sense. Apparently, Discover and American Express aren't named. So those could potentially be used.

JustARaccoon,

I suppose, but do you really think a company will play with fire like that?

FerretyFever0,

Not really. I can hope.

pupbiru,

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

is banning porn games on the same level?

no… not even a little, but i think it’s pertinent… these groups keep pushing harder and harder and it won’t stop. it’ll eventually reach you as a person; not just your interests

prole,

Oh, I believe you just fine… I’m just not sure this is something you should be bragging about.

Maybe you should also care about things that don’t directly affect you. Just a thought.

FerretyFever0,

I do. I legitimately do. But there's people that don't, or only care about their own groups. I care, but there's not much I can do atm besides talk on the internet, which if you look at my comment history, you will see that I do. A lot.

prole,

Then you should tell your previous comment.

ArchmageAzor, do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

It starts with porn, and ends with anti-church content. Everything in between must go.

FartMaster69,

Haha, it doesn’t end there it just keeps going.

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

No violence!

GiuseppeAndTheYeti, do games w Payment Processors Are Pressuring Major Gaming Vendors to Pull LGBTQ+ and NSFW Titles

Anyone got one of them antitrust lawsuits?

BlackLaZoR,
@BlackLaZoR@fedia.io avatar

If these were EU corporations, they'd be sued into oblivion by consumer protection agencies

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

GoG is European right? They’ll probably try to go after them too.

And if not, GoG may become the main haven for non-approved content.

lath,

Depends. The Polish government has its share of religious nuts. If they get courted on this, Gog may end up forced to comply.

IzzyJ,
@IzzyJ@lemmy.world avatar

Is gog Polish? If not, they could just pull the old corpo move of pulling out of markets they can’t operate in without doing it their way

Aceticon,

GoG has A TON of payment processors available to buyers, at least in Europe.

I know because I checked it yesterday following all this shit about payment processors pressuring game stores to stop carrying NSFW games, as I intend to start using a different payment processor as the one I usually use (as it turns out, one of those alternative payment processors is already integrated in the banking app of one of my bank accounts).

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