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elucubra, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good

Gifted my kids, both of them already young adults, one of those retro gaming sticks. An absolute bang/for/buck wonder, full of retro emulators and ROMs. Christmas Day, at grandmas was a retro fest, with even grandma playing. Pac man, frogger, space invaders, galaga, donkey Kong, early console games…. Retro gaming has amazing games, where gameplay and concepts had to make do with the limited resources.

My son has a Steam deck, but he had a blast with the rest.

Sanctus, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good
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Bad_oatmeal,

What is this?

gregdaynes,

Caves of Qud

noxypaws,
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Live and drink!

SkyeStarfall,

Your thirst is mine, my water is yours

noxypaws,
@noxypaws@pawb.social avatar

HA! Now you have to come adventure with me if I can afford the rep loss!

I hope you like hauling bags of warm static~

SkyeStarfall,

🥺

noxypaws,
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seriously though AWESOME game, I must have 500+ hours in it at this point

SkyeStarfall,

Hell yea

random_character_a,
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Tried it about 10+ times, but I suck at it too much.

squid_slime, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good

GSC in my opinion ruined stalker 2 in the chase for “next gen” graphics. And modern graphics are now so dependent on upscaling and frame gen, sad to see but trailers sell.

DarkFuture, (edited ) do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good
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Eh. I want hyper realistic graphics, but I also want a solid story and good gameplay mechanics. If hyper realistic graphics took a backseat to story and mechanics I’d be just as annoyed as a focus on hyper realistic graphics over story and mechanics.

Edit: Generally speaking, of course. There’s quite a few modern games with non-realistic graphics I enjoy, but I’m always waiting for that next hyper realistic game to push the boundaries.

mox, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good
ampersandrew,
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I linked the gift article. This link shouldn’t be necessary, right?

mox, (edited )

The archive link:

  • Doesn’t have a tracker.
  • Works with scripts disabled (good privacy & security practice).
  • Will still be useful when nytimes.com eventually disables your gift ID or takes the article down.
ampersandrew,
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Fair enough.

Kolanaki,
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Oh man… I still can’t read it because of the atrocious background. I was hoping this link would have just been normal text.

mox,

You can select the text that’s over that background to make reading easier. Most of the article is below it, so you should be fine after a couple taps of Page Down.

Or use Firefox reader view, which cleans it right up. :)

PlantJam,

Firefox reader mode fixes that background.

Kolanaki, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good
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You know the budget is spent almost entirely on the art when you actually pay attention to the credits and you see names for like 250 artists, but only 3-5 programmers.

Ephera, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good

The big problem for these AAA studios is that this is their unique selling point. Hyper-realistic graphics and sprawling game worlds. If they stop doing these, they’re hardly different to the games from five years ago (which you can still buy and cheaply at that). And they’re hardly different from indie titles. They would enter quite the competitive market.

I do agree that we’re at somewhat of a breaking point. The production costs grow to absurd levels. The graphical advances are marginal. And not many gamers can afford the newest hardware to play these titles. But I don’t think, there’s an easy exit strategy for these AAA studios…

cybervseas, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good

It’s nice to see gaming covered in NYT at all. The article generally rings hollow to me. I’m not an industry expert, but:

  • It’s easy to be profitable when you’re just making a sandbox and your players make the games, but at that point are you a game developer? (Roblox)
  • High end graphics cards have become so expensive that people can’t afford gaming with good graphics
  • AAA developers aren’t optimizing games as well as they used to, so only high end hardware would even run them
  • AAA is more focused on loot boxes, microtransactions, season passes, and cinematics all wrapped up in great visuals. That’s at the expense of innovative gameplay and interesting stories. Making the graphics worse won’t get execs to greenlight better games, just uglier ones. And they’ll still be $70.
  • Even when games are huge successes and profitable, studios are getting bought and shut down (EA, Microsoft, Sony?), so it’s hard to say the corps are hurting.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

High end graphics cards have become so expensive that people can’t afford gaming with good graphics

Not only that, but mid range cards just haven’t really moved that much in terms of performance. The ultra high end used to be a terrible value only for people who want the best and didn’t care about money. Now it almost makes sense from a performance per dollar standpoint to go ultra high end. At launch the 4090 was almost twice the performance of the 4080, but only cost about 1.5x. And somehow the value gets worse the lower end you go.

Meanwhile mid-high end cards like the 4060 and 7600 (which used to be some of the best values) are barely outperforming their predecessors.

yesman, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good

This article’s reasoning is faith based. The cornerstone assumption is that industry profits and layoffs obey the preferences of the market.

To those who follow the industry, this is demonstrably false. What follows is the lack of awareness on full display:

and even though Spider-Man 2 sold more than 11 million copies, several members of Insomniac lost their jobs when Sony announced 900 layoffs in February.

apfelwoiSchoppen, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good
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It is hard for me to take seriously a hand-wringing industry that makes more money than most entertainment industries. Capitalism is the primary cause of articles like this. Investors simply demand moar each year, otherwise it is somehow a sign of stagnation or poor performance.

AAA studios could be different, but they choose to play the same game as every other sector. Small studios and independents suffer much more because of the downstream effects of the greedy AAAs establishing market norms.

We need unionization, folks. Broad unionization across sectors to fight against ownership/investor greed. It won’t solve everything but it will certainly stem the worst of it.

Anahkiasen, do games w Video Games Can’t Afford to Look This Good

Overall good article with some inaccuracies but the answer to the articles question is to me an easy no. The whole industry won’t recover because its an industry. It follows the rules of capitalism and its a constant race to the worse and while good games by good people happen on the side, they happen in spite of the system. Everything else is working as expected and will continue until you pay per minute to stream games you rent with intermittent forced ads and paid level unlocks.

dj1936, do wiadomosci w Podczas gdy policja szuka mordercy Thompsona, obywatele zorganizowali konkurs na najlepsze upodobnienie do zabójcy [ang.]
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Ciekawe, czy zamkną byle kogo i ogłoszą sukces, że znaleźli sprawcę.

Przecież nie będzie wyglądało zbyt dobrze, jeśli nie znajdą.

delay, do wiadomosci w Podczas gdy policja szuka mordercy Thompsona, obywatele zorganizowali konkurs na najlepsze upodobnienie do zabójcy [ang.]
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Slayer, do games w How an Orchestra Plays Along With a Live Video Game
Wyrak, do wiadomosci w Podczas gdy policja szuka mordercy Thompsona, obywatele zorganizowali konkurs na najlepsze upodobnienie do zabójcy [ang.]

I jak się okazało policja zaliczyła wtopę, bo to nie ta osoba której szukają.

pfm,

A masz jakieś źródło na poparcie tego? Bo też widziałem takie pogłoski, ale w mediach ani słowa na ten temat.

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